Posted on Feb 7, 2018
Is there a benefit to not doing schools such as Ranger, Airborne, Air Assault?
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E. G. Not being assigned to only combat units forever
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These schools represent your willingness to be above the best. Ranger school is the best leadership school in the Army. Airborne, Air Assault are passages to our legacy and our mission. It gives all soldiers a level playing field. You don't have to be from a combat MOS to go to them and it as someone had already stated - having sat on a promotion board, it separates two otherwise equal packets.
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I really cannot speak but, my Grandson (Junior at Texas A&M, in Corps of Cadets, already enlisted, and has goal of becoming a Ranger. Has jump school this summer. All I can say is I am very proud of him and his goals and successes!!!
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you don't get all the fancy trinkets on your uniform.
you get to lay in the hospital a couple of decades down the road while the doctor shakes his head sadly and says, "... what a pity, there he is dying of nothing."
you get to lay in the hospital a couple of decades down the road while the doctor shakes his head sadly and says, "... what a pity, there he is dying of nothing."
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You are an awesome Marine. I asked my father-in-law (LTC jet fighter jock, after starting as an E-0 in 1945) why doesn't the Marine Corps have more qualification badges? He replied smiling "don't really need them, the Eagle Globe & Anchor says it all". There you have it.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
Sgt Wayne Wood Young son tells me, dad aren’t you glad to be a has been rather than a never was!
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These schools are like any civilian school...they give you more knowledge and insight to be able to complete a mission more efficiently. As a member of the 173rd Airborne first tour and 82nd 2nd tour in Vietnam, I felt very comfortable being in the company of those who had undergone similar training.
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Sgt Wayne Wood - Well, when I penned that snarky comment I had not given that very much thought. I had a lot of aches & pains, especially after 9/11 as my OPTEMPO grew, but I never mentally connected them to service. Hummm.
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Sgt Wayne Wood
I wear braces on both knees & had two joints bolted together (while i was still active)
My family was betting i’d not make it to 30...
I often wonder if i did...
My family was betting i’d not make it to 30...
I often wonder if i did...
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SPC David Willis
And you could maximize your time in each rank instead of being promoted early like the guys who go to them.
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Honestly, I believe that certain schools should only be given to those that will actually need them and use the training. I once saw an Intel Captain, not prior enlisted, with Pathfinder wings. It made no sense. But it's the pretty badge people want.
Giving school slots to those that don't need the school takes away from those that do. Especially with the Army always worried about money and training. In the 187th Infantry back around 2011, the BCT CDR stated that only enlisted will be given Pathfinder slots, it was awesome. More often than not, the SSGs and SFCs in the scout and infantry platoons are the ones conducting PFDR ops, such as HLZs and slingloads, not the Officers.
Ranger is another school, it is damn good for the ground pounders, but not so much the support - unless they are going to switch to those MOS', same with Airborne, how many "5 jump chumps" are there that will never even conduct a proficiency jump? Thousands.
The schools are used by many as a way to get promoted, but there are better ways, and people should worry about school that enhance one's MOS. A finance Soldier doesn't need Airborne in that field, but a degree, and other ASIs could greatly increase their skills within the jobset.
I would love to go to Freefall school, but it is not really in a Civil Affairs skillset to freefall into a country. So instead I've been to evasive driving, instructor, and others that actually are useful during a deployment.
Giving school slots to those that don't need the school takes away from those that do. Especially with the Army always worried about money and training. In the 187th Infantry back around 2011, the BCT CDR stated that only enlisted will be given Pathfinder slots, it was awesome. More often than not, the SSGs and SFCs in the scout and infantry platoons are the ones conducting PFDR ops, such as HLZs and slingloads, not the Officers.
Ranger is another school, it is damn good for the ground pounders, but not so much the support - unless they are going to switch to those MOS', same with Airborne, how many "5 jump chumps" are there that will never even conduct a proficiency jump? Thousands.
The schools are used by many as a way to get promoted, but there are better ways, and people should worry about school that enhance one's MOS. A finance Soldier doesn't need Airborne in that field, but a degree, and other ASIs could greatly increase their skills within the jobset.
I would love to go to Freefall school, but it is not really in a Civil Affairs skillset to freefall into a country. So instead I've been to evasive driving, instructor, and others that actually are useful during a deployment.
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SMSgt Thor Merich
When I was active duty Army, in the early 1980's, we couldnt get airborne slots because they were filling them with female officers. Which you would think is odd because females couldnt serve in combat units at the time. But Airborne looked good on their record and made them more promotable, so they trumped enlisted males when it came down to filling out the slots. Some folks just want the school so they have another badge to wear on the uniform.
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