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Obama has proven to be feckless and ineffective.
Edited 9 y ago
Posted 10 y ago
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Are you serious? He has done so much damage worldwide and at home that we will need 12 years to fix his mess. He is borderline communist and I am worried to hear support for him comming from our military… has he replaced that many military leaders that he has a liberal foothold in the once very conservative military?
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The number of jobs that Obama added to the economy is the exact number that he increased the white house staff by. The jobs that you're giving him credit for were added by businesses, not because of the President or anyone else in government, but in spite of them.
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Capt Walter Miller
Nah.
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing
Adam Hartung
Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) today issued America’s latest jobs report covering August. And it’s a disappointment. The economy created an additional 142,000 jobs last month. After six consecutive months over 200,000, most pundits expected the string to continue, including ADP which just yesterday said 204,000 jobs were created in August.
One month variation does not change a trend
Even though the plus-200,000 monthly string was broken (unless revised upward at a future date,) unemployment did continue to decline and is now reported at only 6.1%. Jobless claims were just over 300,000; lowest since 2007. Despite the lower than expected August jobs number, America will create about 2.5 million new jobs in 2014.
And that is great news.
Back in May, 2013 (15 months ago) the Dow was out of its recession doldrums and hitting new highs. I asked readers if Obama could, economically, be the best modern President? Through discussion of that question, the number one issue raised by readers was whether the stock market was a good economic barometer for judging “best.” Many complained that the measure they were watching was jobs – and that too many people were still looking for work."
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“President Obama has achieved a 6.1% unemployment rate in his sixth year, fully one year faster than President Reagan did. At this point in his presidency, President Reagan was still struggling with 7.1% unemployment, and he did not reach into the mid-low 6% range for another full year. So, despite today’s number, the Obama administration has still done considerably better at job creating and reducing unemployment than did the Reagan administration."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/
And -- I love this part. Reagan TRIPLED THE NATIONAL DEBT. Of course things get better when you put the economy on steroids.
Walt
Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing
Adam Hartung
Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) today issued America’s latest jobs report covering August. And it’s a disappointment. The economy created an additional 142,000 jobs last month. After six consecutive months over 200,000, most pundits expected the string to continue, including ADP which just yesterday said 204,000 jobs were created in August.
One month variation does not change a trend
Even though the plus-200,000 monthly string was broken (unless revised upward at a future date,) unemployment did continue to decline and is now reported at only 6.1%. Jobless claims were just over 300,000; lowest since 2007. Despite the lower than expected August jobs number, America will create about 2.5 million new jobs in 2014.
And that is great news.
Back in May, 2013 (15 months ago) the Dow was out of its recession doldrums and hitting new highs. I asked readers if Obama could, economically, be the best modern President? Through discussion of that question, the number one issue raised by readers was whether the stock market was a good economic barometer for judging “best.” Many complained that the measure they were watching was jobs – and that too many people were still looking for work."
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“President Obama has achieved a 6.1% unemployment rate in his sixth year, fully one year faster than President Reagan did. At this point in his presidency, President Reagan was still struggling with 7.1% unemployment, and he did not reach into the mid-low 6% range for another full year. So, despite today’s number, the Obama administration has still done considerably better at job creating and reducing unemployment than did the Reagan administration."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/
And -- I love this part. Reagan TRIPLED THE NATIONAL DEBT. Of course things get better when you put the economy on steroids.
Walt

Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing
Conventional wisdom is that President Obama has not created jobs, or grown the economy. But data shows he has outperformed President Reagan, and every other modern president
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SGT Richard H.
Capt Walter Miller - That article doesn't support or refute my comment in any way, Sir. All it does is claim that two presidents have done something that they both have very little to do with. When you hire a roofer, is that because YOU grew your business, or because the president did?
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Capt Walter Miller
If people feel better about the way the country is going, there is more money available to finance buildings and thereby put roofers to work.
Try growing a business without money.
Walt
Try growing a business without money.
Walt
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Seriously? The most divisive President in history!? Doubling the national debt? Check your sources - they "cook" their numbers to spin their agenda.
Oh and if Obamacare is so good WHY DID IT TRIPLE THE MEDICAL COSTS FOR MY FAMILY???
Oh and if Obamacare is so good WHY DID IT TRIPLE THE MEDICAL COSTS FOR MY FAMILY???
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Capt Walter Miller, Please say again sir, I did not receive your transmission!
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Capt Walter Miller
CSM Hayden,
How do you read this station?
If you could read this station you wouldn't make nonsensical statements.
Walt
How do you read this station?
If you could read this station you wouldn't make nonsensical statements.
Walt
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"Why Do You Think President Obama Has Been So Successful?"
Probably because I don't think he has been successful but I am willing to let history judge his presidency but I for one will be very happy to see him leave in January 2017..and the White House is occupied by a President and Commander in Chief who I respect and admire... To me Obama is an example of a President who was just not up to the job & because of his thin skin managed to piss off most of my friends and colleagues which I have never seen before.. I have yet to find one person who likes and admires Obama among my high school & college buds or Veterans & Church Groups that I belong to here in Massachusetts which is a Democratic State loaded with progressives and liberals..
Probably because I don't think he has been successful but I am willing to let history judge his presidency but I for one will be very happy to see him leave in January 2017..and the White House is occupied by a President and Commander in Chief who I respect and admire... To me Obama is an example of a President who was just not up to the job & because of his thin skin managed to piss off most of my friends and colleagues which I have never seen before.. I have yet to find one person who likes and admires Obama among my high school & college buds or Veterans & Church Groups that I belong to here in Massachusetts which is a Democratic State loaded with progressives and liberals..
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Because he cooks the books in ways that would make Bernie Madoff blush for shame....
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1LT Aaron Barr
Where to begin... That number is all jobs, not full-time. In point of fact, the number of part-time jobs is skyrocketing and those are often double counted. In other words, a person gets two part-time jobs and that counts as two jobs even though the net benefit is minimal. Second, look up the U6 unemployment number. It's much more reflective of the actual state of the economy and employment and it's not pretty. Third, GDP growth is horrible and not improving. Fourth, a large part of the 'success' of the economy is based on Fed interest rates being at zero, ie free money being pumped into the economy. This will be disastrous in the long term both in forms of malinvestment now and inflation and high interest rates in the future.
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Because he has WEATHERED the Storm! Stayed the Course! Dealt with Disrespect with Grace! Kept his Heart in the right place for the American People! He Continues to Press Forward in an Imperfect World where everyone EXPECTS him to be Perfect!
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Sir, I agree that statistics can be manipulated to read anyway you want them to read. The truth is somewhere in the middle of discussion between positive and negative. I challenge everyone to seek out the information yourself and not listen to the overpaid cometary preaching each side of the Democratic and Republican isle.
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Are you freaking serious? Really? REALLY??? Do you even read what you type? Ugh!
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I would say killing the dollar is the biggest failures ever in the history of the US. The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) is soon to be the lender of the new world currency, the yuan. The US attempts of warning allies and client states it would be strongly in their best interests not to join has been a massive failure. Britain, France, Germany, Italy, and Australia all joined, over US objections. South Korea was then heavily lobbied by the US, warned to “think twice” about what it did, but has joined as well. However Obama said "The U.S. never opposed a new China-led infrastructure bank" challenging a common narrative that Beijing out-maneuvered Washington by persuading key US allies to sign up as founding members. - lies but what else can he say. China has engaged in a serious currency war and the US has been caught with their pants down. Since the agreements of 1971 and 1973, OPEC oil is exclusively quoted in US dollars. This created a permanent demand for dollars on the international exchange markets. China imported a record 3.92 million metric tons from Russia in May of this year, according to data emailed by the Beijing-based General Administration of Customs on Tuesday. What is important about this is Russia agreed to accept the the renminbi, the official currency of the People's Republic of China. Now Russia is moving away for the dollar as well due to US sanctions. This will force Saudi Arabia to follow suit and trade using the yuan further devaluing the dollar. As they are pissed at the US for the Iran nuke deal this may well be the vehicle in which OPEC sends a message to the US - "We're trading oil using the yuan" The 2008 meltdown pissed off a lot of countries allowing this crossover to the yuan a welcomed economic solution. The jobs won't matter when you're getting paid in yuan.
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Because despite the rhetoric peddled in some political corners, POTUS is a centrist and a realist and has a Machiavellian ability to accomplish key goals despite near unanimous opposition from the GOP throughout his Presidency. By the way I applaud your courage in starting a topic like this on this site, akin to going to Fox News website and talking up the merits of ACA.
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Capt Walter Miller
Firstly, your statement (as if it were fact, rather than your subjective opinion) is fallacious. Next, for me, COL Jean (John) F. B. said it best: "He has destroyed our economy, set race relations back decades, turned his back on our allies and embraced our enemies, over-reached his Constitutional authority, championed immorality, and is fast turning our country into a third-world country with lawlessness, political corruption, and class warfare."
But even those points, much as I agree with the Colonel, are not his biggest crimes, because most of them 'only' effect our homeland. No, to me, his biggest crime is the way he gutted NASA. There is no other single organisation in the history of human kind that has contributed so much to the quality of day to day life for people the world over. He's set NASA back decades from where they could have been, and the trickle-down effects of (now-lost) potential research are incalculable.
And that effects the entire human race.
Firstly, your statement (as if it were fact, rather than your subjective opinion) is fallacious. Next, for me, COL Jean (John) F. B. said it best: "He has destroyed our economy, set race relations back decades, turned his back on our allies and embraced our enemies, over-reached his Constitutional authority, championed immorality, and is fast turning our country into a third-world country with lawlessness, political corruption, and class warfare."
But even those points, much as I agree with the Colonel, are not his biggest crimes, because most of them 'only' effect our homeland. No, to me, his biggest crime is the way he gutted NASA. There is no other single organisation in the history of human kind that has contributed so much to the quality of day to day life for people the world over. He's set NASA back decades from where they could have been, and the trickle-down effects of (now-lost) potential research are incalculable.
And that effects the entire human race.
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SN Greg Wright
Capt Walter Miller - I find it interesting that the only part of my post you chose to address was the quote -- leaving my main (and only original) point untouched.
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SN Greg Wright
Capt Walter Miller - And with that, you've fully outed yourself as nothing more than a troll-baiter.
I won't be responding to any more of your posts.
I won't be responding to any more of your posts.
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Minimum wage jobs are not a success, foreign policies have been disastrous, and all branches of the service have suffered under the reign to include the intelligence community.
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Looking at the Bureau of Labor Statistics chart from the 1920's to present, Pres Obama's been below average at job creation. I'm not saying anything about the man, only citing the statistics.
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I find it comically absurd that the information in the article is bias. For one, it does not include the public jobs. Second, it shows when he took office but does NOT compare to other Presidents. Clinton and Reagan had private job higher rates than Obama. They are just comparing him to Bush. Third, it does not take into consideration the state of economy nor all the unemployment. For the unemployment you have to look at all the unemployment rate the U-1 to the U-6 reports. The U-6 shows the most. The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts "marginally attached workers and those working part-time for economic reasons." Note that some of these part-time workers counted as employed by U-3 could be working as little as an hour a week. And the "marginally attached workers" include those who have gotten discouraged and stopped looking, but still want to work. Fourth, number of Americans receiving food stamps remains 45 percent higher than when the president first took office.
So, to answer your question "Why Do You Think President Obama Has Been So Successful?" I can only say that in my opinion, he has NOT been so successful.
So, to answer your question "Why Do You Think President Obama Has Been So Successful?" I can only say that in my opinion, he has NOT been so successful.
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Cpl (Join to see)
MSgt (Join to see) The left refused to look at the U6 data, it contradicts their leader's rhetoric. Therefore, they declare the data to be unfounded and fact checks using U3 data is the correct measure for public consumption.
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Capt Juan Alonzo
But even when you look at the data presented above, it too only compares the dubya and obama years and it clearly shows in 2000 a very low %, increasing during the dubya regime, then start to decline in the obama years. This chart makes the case for Capt. Miller, also.
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A soldiers' job is to PROTECT democracy, not PRACTICE it. STFU, keep your opinions to yourself, and do your job!
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I laughed I cried I shi% my pants. First...I tasted vomit in my mouth then I saw the Gunny's post and spit out my crown & water. Son...if you need attention go back to your company (if they let you have one) and ensure your people have enough class V and batteries for their SATCOMs. You are so pitiful
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Capt Walter Miller
Whatever good Obama did was way overborne by inflicting criminal madwoman Clinton on the country by suspending the laws in her behalf. Add that to his foreign policy record, now shown to be worse than feckless and it is a sad tale.
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