Posted on Nov 27, 2016
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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Edited 9 y ago
According to AR 670-1, uniforms and insignia, on that all weather coat the rank insignia must be the NON subdued metal type pins only and worn on the collar of the jacket. Only Commissioned and Warrant Officers will wear that rank insignia on the shoulders and then the metal not Subdued. That jacket can be worn with civilian attire but the rank insignia must be removed in that event.

The entire Army Regulation is available online for reading and reproduction if You need it for that purpose.
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1SG Dave Carello
1SG Dave Carello
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You are absolutely right Colonel. Remember the "Vile" green Velcro PILE CAP of the 70's and 80's?
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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LTC Stephen C. - Even in the Air Force In 1966 I was issued the old horse blanket wool overcoat with two rows of buttons The last time I wore that one though I had only one stripe. Its still hanging in the attic of My parents house.
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MSG Louis Alexander
MSG Louis Alexander
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1SG Dave Carello - The green belted overcoat was a fine coat and it looked great. The raincoat on the other hand looked good, but was worthless. When it rained you got soaked.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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MSG Louis Alexander - I know what You mean about the raincoat, the Air Force had a dark blue raincoat that was the same as the Army raincoat except the color being black. We sure did get soaked in that raincoat when it rained.
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1SG Verle Wright
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Yes you wear shoulder marks on the black all weather coat. Disregard the responses from people who are saying you wear non-subdued pin on rank, things change. CPL and above wear shoulder marks on....... Although I retired 4 years ago, I still no how to look shit up. DA Pam 670-1 May 2017- Shoulder marks, look it up
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1SG Verle Wright
1SG Verle Wright
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and yes these changes took effect prior to your original post
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LT Michael McMahon
LT Michael McMahon
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Hello. Thank you for the information. Since the Type 1 A-2 Deck Coat Jacket does not have shoulder straps, how should one (Lieutenant / 03) affix the non-metal rank insignia on the shoulders? I understand insignia should be sewn 3/4 inch from each end of the shoulder line, but should the insignia be sewn centerline in the top or sewn a tad forward for better visibility, as in the placement of the shoulder boards?

Thank you,

Mike
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1SG Al Brown
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Edited 9 y ago
It's time to memorize AR 670-1, or whatever the digital equivalent is now a days. It's your job to be squared away and correct "all" others now. Go get em.
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On my ASU All Weather Coat/Overcoat, do I wear E-5 shoulder boards or pin on rank?
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According to da Pam 670-1 2015 (attached is the screen shot) officers will wear non subdued pin on rank on shoulders, nco a will wear shoulder marks on shoulder loops and enlisted will wear non subdued pin on rank on the collar.
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SSG Squad Leader
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Some reason it’s blurry but it is chapter 20-7 and I understand this was asked a year ago.
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Hopefully this one is not blurry, same as before but this is the 2017 update
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SSG Squad Leader
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Chapter 18-7
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PO1 John Johnson
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E-5's have shoulder boards?
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The ones that you put on your Class B uniform army
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SFC George Smith
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interesting...
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MSG Senior Maintenance Supervisor
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Pin on rank
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1SG Dave Carello
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Really! I mean REALLY! Have you EVER seen an enlisted Soldier wearing shoulder boards on a coat!
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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Edited 8 y ago
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This picture I took while I was a cadet At Bordentown Military Institute, Bordentown, NJ back in the early 1960s of our Commandant of Cadets, Colonel John S. Roosma. Notice the older style Army overcoat of that time period. Colonel Roosma was a graduate of USMA, West Point.
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SGT Aric Lier
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as an 11B I will say this ......you'd be lucky if I was actually wearing pants on under this let alone the correct rank ;P
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