Retired E8-E9, should your status be used as a bully platform?

Never, should that be the case... what you earn is yours alone... your offspring has to earn theirs!

No, no and no. From my point of view they are already under enough pressure not to screw up. Personally I know my Son would not have it, even thought having served for 30 years I know my way around the system very well. Sad to say, I've seen many counterparts trying to influence the system in their kids behalf, both in the enlisted and particularly officer side. Their parents actions caused more problems than helped the junior service member as eventually the word gets out regarding the special treatment if any.

No, just no!

Personally I believe every person entering the military should be treated fairly and the same. It shouldn't take a Drill SGT long to determine the strengths/weaknesses of the recruits in his platoon.
A number of years ago there were incidents in the Officer Corps where parental meddling caused BIG
problems for the officers involved and their service branch. A number of years ago a young female 1LT was selected to be the first female pilot trained to fly the B-52 bomber. Her future career might have included STARS had she not let her ego and a swelled head trip her up. She developed a close, personal relationship with a male civilian who worked for the AF at her base. Okay, so-what!? The
guy was married to a female enlisted member at the same base. The EM first told her husband and
then the Pilot to END IT! The female Pilot wouldn't give IT UP. It was on record the APs were called
to the Pilot's quarters over domestic disturbances (between Pilot & Civ.). The female EM tried to keep the problem "In family". She wanted the relationship ended but didn't want anyone's career hurt. The Pilot and Civ. must have swallowed magnets. They couldn't/wouldn't stay away from each other!
The EM finally went to her Senior NCO. This is when things heated up. The Pilot case went to a Courts Martial and her Dear Old Dad, a retired AF COL stood behind her by hiring lawyers. It went
to the female pilot. It ended when the Sec. of the AF (a female) had to step in. Can't remember the
type of Discharge the Pilot finally accepted but it wasn't Honorable. The Navy has had problems also.

I'd love to know the outcome of this. Personally, my own father is too passive-aggressive to outright meddle, but he did try to influence my decisions by nagging at me a lot.

well, this is....Interesting. it is obviously a fellow RP member. but that is irrelevant. The answer is quite obvious, absolutely not. You do not piss in anothers yard, ever. second, they are retired, as in, no longer holding an active rank in the military, so, that former NCO can pound sand. You 1SG, are in charge of personnel for your company, and as such, have the special trust and confidence of the nation to prepare your troops to fight and win on the battlefield. If that means the retiree's son has to deploy, then that is what is going to happen. To the Senior NCO Retiree, thank you for your service, but do not meddle in anothers chicken coop, as you know damn well how you would react if an outside SNCO got all up in your business.

No. I graduated from Infantry OCS with the son of a four star general. He told his son that he was on his own and not to depend on his Dad's rank to get him out of any situations. John went though Airborne School and was sent to Vietnam and served with the 82nd, which was his father's old unit. Unfortunately John died in a sky diving accident.

Never ran into that sort of issue until I went on Drill Sergeant duty. Occasionally we would get phone calls from both active duty and retired senior NCOs whose sons were going through basic training. They would normally state they were going to be on post for an unrelated duty but were wanting to "stop by and observe training". They were all given the same response that no one was allowed to observe training. The majority were understanding and accepting of the fact. A few wanted to push the issue and were given the name and number of our BN Commander. I don't recall him ever accommodating them either.

Wow, that question-rant begs an explanation of the story behind it. From the way it was phrased, I suspect you handled it with professionalism and integrity.

Hell no it shouldn't!! I'll tell you one thing thou, I any E-8 or E-9 ever tried to pull his rank on me in my company AO he would be in for one hell-of-a surprise. We would go head to head toe to toe over this!

Really? Is this question coming from a parent or a senior NCO that wants validation for telling a retired E9 to fuck off? Hahaha enlisted make their own way... leave the "who you know" bullshit to the officers.

1SG (Join to see) - Top, this posted/message seams to be targeted at a RallyPoint member. To which you had and have the ability to message privately. Not for his sake, more so for your Soldier, his son’s sake. By you calling him out publicly like this, you are also calling out a subordinate soldier in your Chain of Command publicly, as well. Which if true, is quite on-becoming, and you are not thinking of the posible reaction of his fellow soldiers in your ranks. You commented about a bully platform coming from a retired soldier, how about the bully platform of your Unit’s First Sergeant?

WOW!!! I loved the fact that I earned my way up the ranks and through my own career. Evidently this E-8/E-9 is a Helicopter parent. He needs to let his son fall and pick himself up. But then you can tell by his action that daddy has been there to run interference for him his whole life. I guess WOW!! just kind of sums up everything that is wrong with this person.

Seems like a rhetorical question, as I have never had a RETIRED E8 or E9 in my rating chain, just as I have never had a RETIRED O5 or O6 in my rating chain.
I will thank a retiree for their service, but I will not entertain their unsolicited input on how to conduct unit business.

1) The E-8/E-9 are RETIRED. Note the caps. Means they got out of the service after a long and distinguished career and aside from cracking jokes and telling tales about the 'good ole days' and possibly being a goto for advice, have jack all to say to anyone in command authority over their child. Period. Full stop.

2) The CHILD signed the dotted line, raised their hand and swore an oath. They get treated no different than any other child that did the same. Full stop.

3) ANY retired E-8/E-9 that interferes in their child's development/training/deployment/correction as an adult member of the military needs to be corrected on the spot and does not deserve the respect that goes with that rank or years.

As an E-8, I'm pretty sure you already know what to do. Have you sighted in on the retiree yet? Hopefully, this problem is not rolling downhill from your chain of command, if so then you're caught between a rock and another rock.

No being retire gives you no right to interfere with your son or daughter that voluntarily went in the service.

No, I don't think so. Your children should and will follow their own path. My father never interfered in my decision to go into the army instead of the navy or coast guard. My son initially wanted to go into the army back in 2010. He asked me what I thought and I said do what do best. He went into IT Tech school and has done very well. I have had army brats in the past and both were nothing but trouble even when their fathers, a 1SG & SGM paid me a visit and had prayer serve with them. Both ended up with a AR15 and a stack of formal counseling statemenbts and were chaptered out. I also had a couple of Soldiers that had prior service fathers that became outstanding SNCOs. Had my children went into the service, I would not us my formetr rank or influence to affect their status. I would not currently recommend service to anyone due to the current social experiments of army doctrine as well as the political correctness authority.

No preferential treatment. A parents rank should have absolutely no influence on their child's career. They should be deployed just like any other Joe. My father was a retired Regimental Sergeant Major from the 10th Marines. Retired after 32 years and knew a lot of people. He let me go about my career with no interference. I would go to him for advice, but that was the extent to which it went.

Nope...daddy master sergeant or daddy SGM needs to just be daddy and hush. Leave the ego at the door.

Appears directed at someone in particular, but the answer is no, retired or still on AD. No draft, so don't know what that's about.

No but I'm glad my kids didn't choose to follow my path less worries on this Dad!