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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
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I was told no, "there is no honor amongst thieves".
That said, as I reported to the Army as a direct commission 2LT the first person I saw on the first day of OBC happened to be a 1LT. I was still in NCO mode and saluted before I could stop myself. She just looked me very uncomfortably and tried to return the salute so I sort of dropped and just said good morning. Turns out she was direct commission also but never in the military so didn't know what to do.
The AMEDD is a funny place.
That said, as I reported to the Army as a direct commission 2LT the first person I saw on the first day of OBC happened to be a 1LT. I was still in NCO mode and saluted before I could stop myself. She just looked me very uncomfortably and tried to return the salute so I sort of dropped and just said good morning. Turns out she was direct commission also but never in the military so didn't know what to do.
The AMEDD is a funny place.
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That is funny. I saluted 1LTs when I was a 2LT. I was just like you when you were in "NCO Mode." Now that I am at Benning I get saluted by a lot of the new 2LT in BOLC. One thing that always kills me is as a Platoon Trainer we get officers of all grades just about in our course. Our trainees have no rank. So it is funny to see a CPT or MAJ call me Sir.
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Bottom line, yes. In the real world, LTs are plentiful and interchangeable. Most position slots call for an LT. Often they are peers, PLT Leaders. The other issue is how short time in grade is required for both ranks promote.
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Every time I get tired of the political stuff on this site I come back to this post. I know it is old but I love reading the discussion on whether an 2LT should salute a 1LT. It just cracks me up. Thank you CPT (Join to see) for posting this nugget those three years ago.
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I am glad it is still a pillar of RP and able to help those during the political season.
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Yes. An O2 outranks an O1. This is why E9s salute O1s... hierarchy in the military is pretty cut and dry.
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I THINK IT SHOULD BE A HABIT FOR SOMEONE IN A LOWER GRADE OFFICER OR ENLISTED SHOULD SHOW REPECT TO THE PERSON IN A HIGHER GRADE 2LT OR 1LT OR CAPTAIN UP TO GENERAL THATS SHOWING RESPECT.
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A different perspective- in the Navy among pilots 0-1 thru 0-3 don't salute each other. It drives the shoes (shipdrivers, so called because they wear black shoes as opposed to the brown aviation shoes) crazy. I've seen shoe Ensigns call LTJG sir without hesitation and mean it. The LTJGs require the salute. In aviation once you have wings you are judged by how good you are in the cockpit and in your ground job. We consider ourselves equal more or less when it comes to who respects who. Also, as has been previously mentioned, we don't salute uncovered nor do we salute on the flight line.
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Saluting is a time honored tradition. I often see Soldier change direction to avoid saluting. I feel it an honor to salute and be saluted. Bottom line junior officers should salute senior officers. It will be a proud day when I salute my 2LT son!
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