Posted on May 28, 2014
Should Army and Marines (or components of) consolidate?
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Think objectively. Traditions, camaraderie aside. Both are somewhat similarly more combat-oriented than USN or USAF. Answer practically without putting down either one of them.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
PS: Yes, some are taunting about USN and USAF consolidation or Air Force return to Army Air Corps. My take on that if it's practical, lessen bureaucracy, and make for a smoother communications pipeline amongst the DoD components, why not? Again, camaraderie and traditions aside for a min.
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NO, The Marines should be a unit unto itself. They have an "esprit de corps" you could never get from the Army. I served the the US Army, and have a great respect for the Marines. Leave them alone...they are a fantastic asset to this country......
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No. Each and every service has a purpose. Stop trying to change things. If you want to change things, take all MP’s, SF’s, and MA’s out of the services and make one big Military Police Force. It works for me…..
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PFC Edward Krinsky
If you really want to change things, Have Mille bought up on charges of treason....
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No! Absolutely the Marine Corps and Army should never consider consolidation. Each respective component has a specific mission. The Marine corps is a smaller service designed to combine ground, aviation, and amphibious assets to seize or defend naval bases and to conduct such land operations as may be essential to the prosecution of a naval campaign. They are tasked primarily with first-on-the-scene missions, challenging missions that involve sea-land work combined with support for naval forces. The Marine Corps gets in and gets out as quickly as the mission allows. The army's mission is to fight and win our Nation's wars, by providing prompt, sustained land dominance.
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Despite the hardships people endure to join one service vs the next, it is a simple fact that operations, cost, overhead and miss management of funds go, not to mention the streamlined process that could be developed by consolidating the forces, the services would only stand to improve the deadliness and ability to act when the time comes. communications between the different groups would greatly improve providing a greater readiness to act. I'm not saying to remove the forces, but lets count this up -
army : has army, has an airforce, has amphibious detach(navy).
navy : has navy, has army, has airforce.
marines: has an army, has navy, has an airforce
Airforce: has airforce, has ground support, has army
the above quick and dirty, and i know different groups have different purposes, but a lot of this stuff many of the different services train with each other - enter waste and miss use.
so why not consolidate, have one consolidated army, airforce and navy with clear chain of command per the spear of conflict, to better support the mission. you want to be a marine you join the army and after you pass basic you get a recommendation and go on to specialized train to be a marine, just like green beret, seal and so on. you want to fly helcopters or anything related to airpower u join the airforce and cross-train after basic and so on, removing the waste that goes with the dis organization the military currently has.
army : has army, has an airforce, has amphibious detach(navy).
navy : has navy, has army, has airforce.
marines: has an army, has navy, has an airforce
Airforce: has airforce, has ground support, has army
the above quick and dirty, and i know different groups have different purposes, but a lot of this stuff many of the different services train with each other - enter waste and miss use.
so why not consolidate, have one consolidated army, airforce and navy with clear chain of command per the spear of conflict, to better support the mission. you want to be a marine you join the army and after you pass basic you get a recommendation and go on to specialized train to be a marine, just like green beret, seal and so on. you want to fly helcopters or anything related to airpower u join the airforce and cross-train after basic and so on, removing the waste that goes with the dis organization the military currently has.
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AB Jon C
someone said that if there wasn't a need for it then it wouldn't have been created, well things evolve or die, the armies of old didn't act independently of the goal they moved as one, and communicated as one, look at ww2/Vietnam the army often had to wait on the airforce to drop ordnance or give aircover in part to miss communications. so lets resolve that and strengthen the bonds of the services.
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Hell no Soldier Boy! If Soldiers want to be Marines they can enlist and go to “Boot Camp” not basic training two totally different world! Why don’t you ask the Air Force if they want to be consolidated back into the Army Air Corps!
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Until recently I would have said that it would have been reasonable to move SOME of the Marine Corps to the Army. Now, with the recent changes in Marine Corps leadership, I don't think that would be useful -- because they now have leadership who seem to realize that the Marine Corps has a different mission from the Army and is not just a "more exclusive, better dressed" version of land combat soldiers.
The corruption of the Marine Corps mission began with WWI with the co-mingling of Army and Marine Corps units, it reached saturation levels in WWII when both services were used nearly interchangeably -- a mistake that continued through Korea and Vietnam.
Then the Navy decided that they didn't want the Marine Corps fulfilling its traditional role aboard ships, leaving the Marine Corps as just another land combat force.
The Marine Corps has a proud tradition and ethos, but those cannot survive alone -- the tradition and ethos evolved from the unique missions of the Marine Corps and their accomplishments in fulfilling those missions. Without a mission of their own the ethos that makes Marines different cannot be sustained.
The entire Defense structure needs to recognize and acknowledge that the Marine Corps is different because they have a different mission -- the entire Defense Department needs to respect the difference and stop trying to make the Army and Marine Corps be interchangeable.
The corruption of the Marine Corps mission began with WWI with the co-mingling of Army and Marine Corps units, it reached saturation levels in WWII when both services were used nearly interchangeably -- a mistake that continued through Korea and Vietnam.
Then the Navy decided that they didn't want the Marine Corps fulfilling its traditional role aboard ships, leaving the Marine Corps as just another land combat force.
The Marine Corps has a proud tradition and ethos, but those cannot survive alone -- the tradition and ethos evolved from the unique missions of the Marine Corps and their accomplishments in fulfilling those missions. Without a mission of their own the ethos that makes Marines different cannot be sustained.
The entire Defense structure needs to recognize and acknowledge that the Marine Corps is different because they have a different mission -- the entire Defense Department needs to respect the difference and stop trying to make the Army and Marine Corps be interchangeable.
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Not an insult fought alongside marines in Vietnam
Saying it is an insult is an insult jarhead . Our cold dead bodies are covered with same flag . We leave blood bones & flesh on foreign soil the same way . Army does not want to be part of marines but I would never say it's an insult or we not as proud as marines . Get real.
Saying it is an insult is an insult jarhead . Our cold dead bodies are covered with same flag . We leave blood bones & flesh on foreign soil the same way . Army does not want to be part of marines but I would never say it's an insult or we not as proud as marines . Get real.
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