Posted on Jul 17, 2015
MSgt Matthew Meindl
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Can politicians truly understand what they are sending military members into (conditions, stress, harm, etc.) if they have never experienced it?
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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As much as I'd like to say yes, you can't. They are called civilian leaders for a reason. My personal feelings are if you want to have the authority to send a SM potentially to their death, then you should have some experience in military leadership. I can't say that having a congress with more veterans in it would make that much of a difference with party polarization so deeply rooted in the past decade or so and congressmen more afraid of losing votes than voting for what's right.
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SSgt Charles Edwards
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It seems that many politicians are put of touch with their constituents primarily based on the problems that never seem to be fully resolved. These include but are not limited to unemployment, poverty, hunger, homelessness, health care and the military life.

Many people feel that someone who hasn't served in the military isn't worthy of a political office. I think what this country needs is more leadership in Congress and in the White House that understands the people...the ordinary Joes in society. I'm not saying it would be perfect, but maybe if securing votes was all about a person's authenticity, compassion and motivation to strengthen our nation instead of securing a fat donation, perhaps we could get on the right track.

Of course, this is just wishful thinking.
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SSG Izzy Abbass
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Not necessarily deployed but the President should have served in the military. The act of signing on the dotted line and saying my life is yours to do with what you will would be enough for me.
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Should CinC and politicians be veterans who have been deployed?
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MSgt Matthew Meindl
No, but they should surround themselves with military experts (who are actual veterans) who can explain those things to them.
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SPC Jeffrey Bly
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Mostly those Vets are Generals who plan wars. I may be wrong, but it just seems that way.
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PO1 John Miller
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SPC Jeffrey Bly that's pretty much what I was saying.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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If they actually listen to them.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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Initially it would help, but lets face facts after a year or two of having interest groups and lobbyist showering them with gifts and seeing other politicians gladly selling them selves they too will forget about us. Get rid of the loop holes on lobbyist and special interest groups is the best solution.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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Ok Pedro call me Steve.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SGM Steve Wettstein - Steve if you are ever in San Antonio send me a message We have a beer or two. Fact just finished having one, with my lunch after passing another kidney stone. My urologist even agrees that beer is the besting for passing kidney stones.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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CPT Pedro Meza Ok will do Pedro. No ups or I would be giving you bunch Brother. You are making my afternoon.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SGM Steve Wettstein - Beer is better, Beside I "Don't Need No Stinking Badges/Ups" I find them funny. Beer is better for passing kidney stones anyway.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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No, it would create a ruling class, require the US to be in nearly a perpetual state of war and negate about 99% of the potential candidates (but still leave some real goobers in the running). Leading a country is far, FAR more than knowing what the military needs.
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Rick Wiseman
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I didn't have to deploy to watch 2 of my AIRBORNE MP brothers die on a jump. The issues of serving can be understood by those who haven't deployed.... Getting to the question though my Cousin (Ret MSGT promotable to CSM) and I had this discussion just yesterday, we both think that anyone holding a Political position should have a minimum of 2 years Military Service. Civilians can thank you, they can say they know what we feel but, that doesn't change the fact they have never put their ass on the line to defend the rights they freely enjoy without the risk of sacrifice!
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CPO Joseph Grant
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Only if we change the Constitution. Personally, while I don't have a solution, I'd love to see the cult of personality disappear.
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SPC Jeffrey Bly
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Do you perhaps think most people would enlist if they knew what they are giving up and how many never recover? who wishes to live Disabled or with PTSD or Stress, Anxiety, Depression? These are real struggles that many men, women and their families live with everyday. Some people are suited for it. Others are not. There has to be a better way.
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SSgt Senior It Security Analyst
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No they shouldn't have to be veterans who have deployed. Yes, someone can understand the difficulties and not deploy.
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