Should Donald Trump run for President in 2024?

There are much better reasons to disqualify Trump:
- His insurrection.
- COVID response. Just look at his confidence as he lies. He did not care about us.
- Racism.

It's not rocket science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8yOv4PwttM&t=15s

IMO he's totally unfit to be president but the dems do not have a worthwhile candidate to oppose him .

Trump wants to “Make America Great Again”. Anyone with a brain knows it means bring back the racist society America once was and allow the cowardly hiding behind white sheets when nobody is looking to overtly walk the streets again.
He’s not fit to lead America and should be lead off in cuffs and shackles while wearing the orange jumpsuit which matches his toupee noggin.
What I will also say is that it is time to clean the swamp of all these old farts in congress, Republicans and Democrats, and bring in some new blood who what to work for “We The People”. All of our adversaries are watching and waiting, and hoping they will have another dictator to hobnob with and squander the country’s wealth.
And for all you idiots who think Trump will be your next “Messiah” are just kidding yourselves. He will make your lives as much of a hell as everyone else’s. And I will laugh at all you fools crying in the welfare lines.
He’s the pied piper for Lucifer.

I realize that I will have negative feedback regardless how I might answer this question, but NO I do not believe he should be running for President. Chaos seems to follow him in everything that he has done. He has been accused of crimes that are yet to be adjudicated so I will give him a pass on those. However, the action, or inaction, he took during the January 6 insurrection is unforgiveable. He not only encouraged the act, but he sat idle for hours allowing a mob to attack our CAPITAL, injuring many and causing the death of some. Give thought, what would we be like today if the mob had been successful? Certainly, more would have died....... But what would our lives be like today if it had been successful. I can only imagine, but it would not have been a favorable outcome!

Rally Point you are aware …. That in 2023 Trump various attorneys filed on Donald J Trump behalf LEGAL COURT DOCUMENTS

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1.) Trump legal news brief: Trump’s lawyers say he did not take an oath ‘to support the Constitution’

Yahoo News' succinct daily update on the criminal and civil cases against the 45th president of the United States.

In a filing made to the Colorado Supreme Court, lawyers for former President Donald Trump say that he never took an oath “to support the Constitution of the United States’’ and should therefore not be banned from the state’s presidential ballots in 2024 based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. In the New York financial fraud civil trial, an executive with Deutsche Bank testifies about the favorable loan rates the bank gave Trump and the decision to part ways with one of its most famous clients. Here are the latest developments in the legal cases involving the man looking to return to the White House.

Jan. 6 election interference

Trump’s lawyers say he never took oath ‘to support the Constitution’

Key players: Colorado Supreme Court, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), Colorado District Judge Sarah Wallace

* Filings submitted to the Colorado Supreme Court this week from lawyers for Trump and CREW presented opposing views on whether Trump’s role in the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol violated his oath of office and, under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution, made him ineligible to run again, Truthout reported.

* Section 3 bars those found to have engaged in “insurrection or rebellion” and who had previously taken an oath “to support the Constitution” from holding elected office again. But Trump’s attorneys argued it was not applicable due to the stature of the presidency and the wording of the oath.

* “Section Three does not apply, because the presidency is not an office ‘under the United States,’ the president is not an ‘officer of the United States,’ and President Trump did not take an oath ‘to support the Constitution of the United States,'” Trump’s lawyers wrote.

* Instead, the attorneys noted, Trump swore “to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.”

* CREW, which is representing six Colorado voters appealing Wallace’s ruling that Trump’s name could remain on state ballots, argued Trump’s argument was merely semantic.

* “The Constitution" CREW stated in its brief to the court, "explicitly tells us, over and over, that the Presidency is an ‘office.’ The natural meaning of ‘officer of the United States’ is anyone who holds a federal ‘office.’ And the natural reading of ‘oath to support the Constitution’ includes the stronger Presidential oath to ‘preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.’”

* The court has scheduled a hearing to hear arguments in the matter on Dec. 6.

Why it matters: Whatever the Colorado Supreme Court decides, its ruling will likely be appealed and the case will likely make its way to the U.S. Supreme Court. At the heart of the case is the question of what limits the Constitution puts on presidential power.

SOURCE : https://news.yahoo.com/trump-legal-news-brief-trumps-lawyers-say-he-did-not-take-an-oath-to-support-the-constitution-201628633.html



2.) NEWS | POLITICS & ELECTIONS

Trump’s Latest Legal Defense: He Didn’t Take Oath to “Support” the Constitution
The Colorado Supreme Court is weighing whether to bar Trump from appearing on the state ballot next year.

By Chris Walker , TRUTHOUT
Published
November 28, 2023

Lawyers for former President Donald Trump filed a brief with the Colorado state Supreme Court this week arguing that a constitutional provision that would disallow him from being able to run for the presidency again in 2024 should be ignored because, as they put it, he never made an oath, as president, to “support” the Constitution.

The argument is one of semantics, as the president of the United States is sworn in through a different oath than members of Congress or other government officials.

Article II of the U.S. Constitution requires presidents-elect to read an oath promising to “preserve, protect and defend” the document as they are being sworn into office.

Six residents in Colorado sued to have Trump barred from being able to appear on the state ballot next year as a candidate for president, citing Section 3 of the 14th Amendment — sometimes known as the insurrectionist clause — as their basis for doing so. That provision states that no person can be elected to any office within the United States if they have served in a position where they “previously [took] an oath … to support the Constitution” while subsequently engaging in “insurrection or rebellion” or giving aid or comfort to those who have engaged in such activities.

Because the language of the amendment says “support” rather than any of the words used in the presidential oath of office, Trump’s lawyers contend the provision doesn’t apply to him. The former president’s lawyers claim this difference in the language was “purposefully” created by the authors of the amendment.

SOURCE : https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-latest-legal-defense-he-didnt-take-oath-to-support-the-constitution/


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NEWS | POLITICS & ELECTIONS
Colorado Supreme Court Agrees to Hear 14th Amendment Case to Disqualify Trump

A district court judge last week ruled Trump was an insurrectionist but could still run for president.

November 22, 2023

Colorado’s state Supreme Court has agreed to hear an appeal of a recently decided case involving former President Donald Trump’s eligibility to run for president again under a constitutional provision that forbids former lawmakers and government officials who engaged in insurrection from seeking public office of any kind.
The state’s highest court issued its order approving the writ of certiorari on Tuesday. Both sides in the matter are now required to appear before the court on December 6 to present arguments defending their positions.

If the court rules in favor of plaintiffs, Trump’s name would not appear on either the primary election ballot, nor the general election ballot, in next year’s presidential race. Colorado is not necessarily a swing state — Trump lost to President Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election by more than 13 points — but the outcome of the case, if Trump is indeed removed, could inspire other states to take similar actions against the former president.

SOURCE : https://truthout.org/articles/colorado-supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-14th-amendment-case-to-disqualify-trump/

It’s chess … pay attention :

By stating he NEVER took an oath to uphold the United States Constitution, it could be argued as a technicality that allows an loophole [ TO INTENTIONAL INTERPED TO ALLOW DICTATORSHIP ] by the Supreme Court that allows him to not be elected, but seated as a dictator by proxy of law.

Rally Point : Are you willing to submit to a Dictator and Dictatorship.

This is NOT a hypothetical question.

Is ANY UNITED STATES CITIZEN EXEMPT from the laws that govern United States citizens?

This all boils down to :

* Do politics override the RULE OF LAW?

* Does the political position of the PRESIDENT of the United States supersede ALL LAWS that govern ALL United States Citizens?

* Is the Presidency a Monarchist Position which the United States Citizenship is willing to bow to?

The safeguards the founders left were clear to avoid what now in 2024’ should NOT even be up for debate.

1.) Why does the new president take the oath of office?

[demonstrate a commitment that s/he will do her job and respect the principles of the government of the United States. The Constitution requires that the new president take

* 2.) Why does s/he have to promise to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution? [The president is not above the Constitution. S/he must follow the guidelines in the Constitution such as respecting the separation of powers and protecting individual rights.]

3.) What if the person did not have to pledge to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution? [The President might abuse his/her power. The Constitution ensures that there is a balance of power between the executive, legislative, and judicial branch. It also protects individual rights. Without the Constitution, the President might try to take away individual rights or overpower the legislative and judicial branches.]

SOURCE : https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/teachers/curricular-resources/the-presidents-pledge#:~:text=The%20Constitution%20requires%20that%20the,Article%20II%20Section%201).%5D


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V2 : https://youtu.be/MZO5X7dIa2E?si=bhqP7qAZuldTFIlf


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https://youtube.com/shorts/gazpRAkIYAc?feature=share

1.) United States is a federal constitutional republic

* JUNI 3, 2020

The United States is a federal constitutional republic, in which the President of the United States (the head of state and head of government), Congress, and judiciary share powers reserved to the national government, and the federal government shares sovereignty with the state governments.

There are major differences between the political system of the United States and that of most other developed democracies. These include increased power of the upper house of the legislature, a wider scope of power held by the Supreme Court, the separation of powers between the legislature and the executive, and the dominance of only two main parties. The United States is one of the world’s developed democracies where third parties have the least political influence.

The federal entity created by the U.S. Constitution is the dominant feature of the American governmental system. However, most residents are also subject to a state government, and also subject to various units of local government. The latter can include counties, municipalities, and special districts.

SOURCE : https://ar.usembassy.gov/u-s-government/

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What’s before the courts now because of both being a basic political football/Matryoshka … All the while it’s further testing leg limits and safeguards of our society.

The endgame is a Dictatorship.

Collectively how do people not see the following despite beliefs/feelings/opinions.

What’s before the Supreme Court of the United States :

“Is ANY UNITED STATES CITIZEN, not just the position of the presidency. Is ANY UNITED STATES CITIZENS exempted from local/state/state federal laws … to the constitution?”

That’s EXACTLY what the courts are deciding.

Logic & FACTS

*WARNING/PAY ATTENTION*

This all boils down to :

* Do politics override the RULE OF LAW?

* Does the political position of the PRESIDENT of the United States supersede ALL LAWS that govern ALL United States Citizens?

* Is the Presidency a Monarchist Position which the United States Citizenship is willing to bow to?

The safeguards the founders left were clear to avoid what now in 2024’ should NOT even be up for debate.

1.) Why does the new president take the oath of office?

[demonstrate a commitment that s/he will do her job and respect the principles of the government of the United States. The Constitution requires that the new president take

* 2.) Why does s/he have to promise to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution? [The president is not above the Constitution. S/he must follow the guidelines in the Constitution such as respecting the separation of powers and protecting individual rights.]

3.) What if the person did not have to pledge to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution? [The President might abuse his/her power. The Constitution ensures that there is a balance of power between the executive, legislative, and judicial branch. It also protects individual rights. Without the Constitution, the President might try to take away individual rights or overpower the legislative and judicial branches.]

SOURCE : https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/teachers/curricular-resources/the-presidents-pledge#:~:text=The%20Constitution%20requires%20that%20the,Article%20II%20Section%201).%5D


V1 : https://youtu.be/Tjko-FuU79Q?si=G4MerDpByKKcWQDc


V2 : https://youtu.be/MZO5X7dIa2E?si=bhqP7qAZuldTFIlf


V3 : https://youtu.be/x8-kSqoReRI?si=0deXi1wuz6z51nwR

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https://youtube.com/shorts/gazpRAkIYAc?feature=share

1.) United States is a federal constitutional republic

* JUNI 3, 2020

The United States is a federal constitutional republic, in which the President of the United States (the head of state and head of government), Congress, and judiciary share powers reserved to the national government, and the federal government shares sovereignty with the state governments.

There are major differences between the political system of the United States and that of most other developed democracies. These include increased power of the upper house of the legislature, a wider scope of power held by the Supreme Court, the separation of powers between the legislature and the executive, and the dominance of only two main parties. The United States is one of the world’s developed democracies where third parties have the least political influence.

The federal entity created by the U.S. Constitution is the dominant feature of the American governmental system. However, most residents are also subject to a state government, and also subject to various units of local government. The latter can include counties, municipalities, and special districts.

SOURCE : https://ar.usembassy.gov/u-s-government/

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What’s before the courts now because of both being a basic political football/Matryoshka … All the while it’s further testing leg limits and safeguards of our society.

The endgame is a Dictatorship.

Collectively how do people not see the following despite beliefs/feelings/opinions.

What’s before the Supreme Court of the United States :

“Is ANY UNITED STATES CITIZEN, not just the position of the presidency. Is ANY UNITED STATES CITIZENS exempted from local/state/state federal laws … to the constitution?”

That’s EXACTLY what the courts are deciding.

Logic & FACTS

As a Vietnam veteran, I cannot in good faith support a liar, draft dodger or anyone who disrespects veterans who have served honorably for their country. Disrespecting John McCain, a decorated war hero. Disrespecting families of veterans who have died in service to their country. Calling people who serve stupid. Any veteran who follows him should tear up their DD 214 if they go along with his disrespect.

The level of TDS within the ranks is pretty pathetic, and is demonstrative of institutionalized, not objective or critical, thinking.
1. POTUS has ultimate declassification authority. Period. Every president in modern history has retained classified documents. Former vice president Joe Biden did so illegally as a senator and as VP. President Trump didn’t violate any laws no matter how pundits, pontificators, and partisans want to spin it.
2. Plenty of politicians have dinners with deplorable people, often without knowing who they are or their politics. Which president did more for Jews and the state of Israel in the last 50+ years than any of his predecessors? This bullet point is just intellectually dishonest and disingenuous, and reflective of an ignorant perspective.
3. Cite precisely when and where he said that. Is it like unapologetically violating constitutional immigration law, censorship, separation of powers (student loan forgiveness), FARA violations by proxy, bribery, targeting political opponents, and dozens of other high crimes and misdemeanors?
As Adam Carrolla so aptly stated, stupid or lying. The TDS crowd needs to pick their camp and accept that they’re not speaking or acting in the interests of the constitutional republic this country is.

This man, this spoiled rotten kid who is now into is late 70's, is the most divisive, adversarial individual who causes nothing but chaos. And when it comes to veterans, remember how Trump looks at the disabled vets. In 2019, General Mark Milley requested the disabled Army Capt. Luis Avila to sing God Bless America at his formal welcome ceremony. Trump said to General Milley “Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded.” Then later during the ceremony stated "never let that wounded vet appear in public again." This is just one example of MANY of Trump's views on the military.
Then of course is his history of how he treats women. Remember the audio leak with him bragging about kissing and touching women to get them to let him do anything he wants, which was during his first presidential run? We all have short memories, don't we?
He was absolutely responsible for stoking the fires in the attack on the capitol on Jan 6, 2021!
He is also responsible for much of the American division that we see today, in my opinion. We need a President that brings people together, not at each others throats.
We always seem to find ourselves voting for the lesser of the two evils. As a moderate, I sincerely hope that someone else gets the republican nomination. I truly wish that the democrat party would nominate someone other that Biden because I don't think that he is mentally capable of carry out the duties of POTUS. If our choice is between Biden and Trump again, that will be a sad day for all Americans. I voted for Trump in 2016 (not in 2020), but he quickly showed his true colors and I WILL NOT vote for Trump again!