Posted on Apr 10, 2016
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Ok here is the situation: I am running a 11B ALC course and we got 5 soldiers attached to us from the finance BN and 2 of them are females. They have to rotate shifts for ammo guard. Since we are about to have the first female in the infantry is it wrong to have 1 female and 1 male do ammo guard.
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No it is not wrong at all. They are both soldiers. We need to stop treating females soldiers are a endanger species or high risk factor for our Risk Assessments. What I would do is ask a soldier in an MP unit the same question. They have been doing that for a quite a while. But if we can't trust a soldier not to attack another soldier than we are failing as a profession. I would also say the same thing if we fear that a female soldier is going to claim SHARP at the drop of the hat. If we just treat them as another soldier you may be surprised. I have always been infantry. I am now in a unit that has females in it due to being a training unit. I will say I would put her performance level above that of many soldiers I know. But as infantry so many fear what they don't know. In reality it shouldn't be an issue. I would just to be sure to put a responsible soldier on guard just as the same way as I would with male soldiers. I wouldn't want two PVTs guard ammo. I would like to see an NCO there. But all in all this isn't the first time a male and female soldier had to work togerther in a remote locaton.
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SSgt Stevan Auldridge
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It works for Israel, but Israel is a different culture.
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Sgt Den OBrien
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I don't see any problem unless a "short arm" inspection is brought up.
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SFC Donald York - I see how you are coming from. We are always resistant with something we are unfamiliar with. This is no difference.
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SGT Chris Birkinbine
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SFC Donald York - That is only an issue because our current culture allows it. That mentality needs to be worked out of our military, and it needs to start in Basic/Boot, and it needs to be continued and supported all the way up the chain.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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Even when I was in, females were pulling guard duty - so what's the problem now?
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SGT Jennifer Rixe
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SGM Mikel Dawson - I agree with you. I pulled guard duty with a male soldier multiple times when I was deployed to Bosnia, just him and I alone on the perimeter for 12 hours; I also pulled guard duty with a mixed group of males and females. There were never any issues. I think the problem is that people are too scared of the consequences instead of trusting that the soldiers will do their jobs. Yes EO complaints happen but not all women are quick to jump to making accusations.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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SSG Bethany Viglietta - We all hope for your attitude to be followed by all!
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SSG Bethany Viglietta
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025 - It's the only way we will ever be seen as equals. anytime special accommodations are made for a female it sets us back. Not saying we should all shower together or change in same room, but short of that things should be the same.
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Absolutely not. Professionalism should be enforced and expected. There's a job to be done, and it will be.
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Should gender be a consideration for guard duty?
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This should not be a question of gender, but of training.
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Realistically no it should not but in our Army today we should play to the side of caution. Too many times do jokes or phrases offend many people when they may have misunderstood or taken out of context. Also if a situation arises I would prefer to have a witness instead of depending on a he-said, she-said ordeal. Too often do males get the short end of the stick.
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I also want to say no, due to the fact that if we are going to accept females in our MOS, then we need to start small and doing an ammo guard shift together would help out. As long as both male and female SMs are professional and can keep their minds focused on the mission at hand... Then I see nothing wrong with that. You're the SFC in charge and you make decisions based on how you see fit. Just have someone check in on them from time to time. Even send the other female soldier over to check with her. It's going to take a long time to get used to the change, but you're doing the right thing! Hooah!
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SSG Brian Cowan
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Jesus Christ, how is this even a question? When did we forget, that above all else, we are adults? If we can't act like mature adults to carry out a simple task like guard duty, how do we, as a team, expect to win wars? Check out the civilian side of the work force: do bosses separate male and female coworkers for fear that they might have sex at work or scream rape because a male coworker looked at a female sideways? Do your job as a SNCO and police up your Soldiers. If your male Soldier has a problem with it and can't keep his dick in his pants, replace him since he's obviously unfit for duty.
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CPL Evan Garrison
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I want to say no, because as soldiers we are all professional and race, gender, nationality, etc should be irrelevant. But we also have a politically correct Army so there's no telling.

In my own opinion of females are allowed into combat arms professions than it would seem appropriate that men and women can be on guard together no matter the circumstance, since professionalism is key to our success.
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Well with that said I'm also the BN EO rep and I seen a E6 get the boot because of what he said to a female.
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CPL Evan Garrison
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SFC (Join to see) I am worried that with females being allowed into combat roles there will be an influx in issues arrising simply for the fact that the combat arms have a certain "enviorment" and way of talking to eachother.
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SFC (Join to see) - Well, I can't say that I have ever heard of a soldier that kept their conduct professional and got the boot. I don't want to know the deals but I have known some that have got in trouble to losing their professional bearing.
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MAJ Patricia Schaeflern
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Either they are soldiers, or they are not. They are not circle red-X "to be given duties only in the presence of a male or only in the presence of another female..."
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CAPT Don Bosch, EdD
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That train left the station long ago.
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