Posted on May 29, 2018
Should I use the open door policy for losing my driver job?
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Very long story short i was recently my battalion commanders driver, and i was recently halfway relieved of the position. I have yet to be told that i am anything else. Yet they are holding more interviews for my position. The reason all of this happend was becouse i was told not to worry the truck was not dispatched in my name and the truck did not have any BII. I had asked for it several times but there is only so much a PFC can ask for. GUESS what happend our CSM and BC checked the truck for BII. Im sure many of you can guess the rest. Just need some advice. I am 24 and held professional positions in the civilian sector, this is why i'm guessing i was selected for the job in the first place.
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Please permit an old guy an off topic rant. I wish everyone on Rally Point would stop assuming that your alphabet soup is everyone else's alphabet soup, It is NOT. DYNWTFIM. ISFTOTS. IIFI. SKITFO. There was a time when they taught military correspondence and one of the rules of the written page was the first time you use an acronym plain language followed by the acronym in parentheses. Example: United States Marine Corps (USMC).
I assume that BII are Basic Issue Items that go with the vehicle (Jack, wheel chocks, spade, etc.). ANY time and EVERY time you are supposed to sign for something. and something doesn't seem correct, STOP!!! Take a deep breath, and tell the person who is checking the item out to you that you want them in THEIR hand, in ink, over their signature to note your exceptions. Exceptions to inventory should be written out because a check mark can be added later. If they won't do it, DO NOT sign, ask to speak to the first Non-Commissioned Officer (NCO) or Staff Non-Commissioned Officer (SNCO) in their Chain of Command (CoC). [See how I did that acronym thing]. If you don't get what you want, keep going up the CoC, until you do.
Years ago, when dinosaurs ruled the Earth, it was common to get green troops to sign for items that were not there. Then the items were sold to pawn shops and Army Navy surplus stores. I implemented a policy, that no Lance Corporals and junior could sign for anything unless one of the platoons NCO's accompanied the Marine to the issue point and double checked the inventory. upon sign in or Permanent Change of Station checkout, It was amazing how much less gear was missing.
I don't know how long you've been the Battalion Commander's Driver. In my day it was a 4 month gig. It's not good for your professional development to be in such rarefied surroundings for longer.
If you want a translation of "DYNWIM. ISFTOTS. III. SKITFO." No, but here' a hint, each acronym is the first letters of each word, some with coarse language included.
I assume that BII are Basic Issue Items that go with the vehicle (Jack, wheel chocks, spade, etc.). ANY time and EVERY time you are supposed to sign for something. and something doesn't seem correct, STOP!!! Take a deep breath, and tell the person who is checking the item out to you that you want them in THEIR hand, in ink, over their signature to note your exceptions. Exceptions to inventory should be written out because a check mark can be added later. If they won't do it, DO NOT sign, ask to speak to the first Non-Commissioned Officer (NCO) or Staff Non-Commissioned Officer (SNCO) in their Chain of Command (CoC). [See how I did that acronym thing]. If you don't get what you want, keep going up the CoC, until you do.
Years ago, when dinosaurs ruled the Earth, it was common to get green troops to sign for items that were not there. Then the items were sold to pawn shops and Army Navy surplus stores. I implemented a policy, that no Lance Corporals and junior could sign for anything unless one of the platoons NCO's accompanied the Marine to the issue point and double checked the inventory. upon sign in or Permanent Change of Station checkout, It was amazing how much less gear was missing.
I don't know how long you've been the Battalion Commander's Driver. In my day it was a 4 month gig. It's not good for your professional development to be in such rarefied surroundings for longer.
If you want a translation of "DYNWIM. ISFTOTS. III. SKITFO." No, but here' a hint, each acronym is the first letters of each word, some with coarse language included.
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Use your Chain of Command that's why it's there, best case scenario the situation is corrected. It should have been taken care of at the lowest level. I can't believe the CSM didn't look into this before they went replace mode. Worst case scenario is you get replaced and you back down to your team/Squad, learn from this and become a better leader down the line. In my day nobody wanted to be the BC's driver we rather stayed in our platoons just to avoid all the hoopla. If anything I think your attention to detail will be hyper sensitive from now on and you will stand up to those who want you to skip procedure and SOP's and tell you not to worry about it, it could have been much worse in the scheme of things. Damn, I almost wrote drive on meaning keep on going but then I figured you would think I was making a pun at your expense, old terms get you in trouble sometimes. :)
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I dont have soft skin. That was funny, but the only reason i wanted the position was becouse i was stuck in the drivers hole of a bradley. I wanted out.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
SPC (Join to see) - Well eventually you will work yourself up to Vehicle commander or you could try for a Jump slot as a Paratrooper, less vehicles, a hell of lot more walking and Misery, you may want to go back to that Bradley until maintenance time :)
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SSG Robert Perrotto
SPC (Join to see) - the next logical step in your career progression is either becoming a Bradley gunner, or a dismounted RTO, Saw gunner. Being the driver for the Battalion command should only be a 12 month stint, as you miss out on training that is imperative to your MOS. I would not sweat this Troop - I started as an 11M - was a driver and then gunner before I went light.
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My first question would be, who is the Sub Hand Receipt Holder for the vehicle? But, my advice before you use the Open Door Policy, is utilize your NCO Chain first. Talk with your Squad Leader about this. Let them work on your behalf. Whomever the vehicle was dispatched to, should have checked it to ensure the BII was there. The person who is the SHR holder should have checked to see if the BII was there. Now, that being said, you as the driver are held to a responsibility to check the BII is in place before rolling out of the motor pool. If the BII was/is missing, then documentation should have been made. If you have paperwork stating that the BII was never there even before you became the driver, then you have a good case to give to your Squad Leader.
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We just returned from korea. That was the excuse for nothing being signed down and none of our trucks had BII so i was told not to worry about it by my first line then when i got chewed out by the csm he was no where to be found and i was left out to dry. I have went as far as speaking to my PSG through my chain of command first. I am just being left out to dry.
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Yea. There is a whole line of failures in that situation. As SSG Duke Allen said, this could be a blessing in itself since it gets you back to the Line. And, all those vehicles missing BII, well....if you didn't sign for the vehicle and BII, then it's no sweat off you and it's someone else's logistical and financial problem. Take the ass chewing as a learning tool, address your concerns with your Leadership, then do an About Face and beat feet back to the nearest Line Platoon and live a happy Infantry life.
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