Posted on May 6, 2015
Should the Air Force make a permanent transition from the ABU pattern to the OCP/Multicam pattern?
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Are the runways the USAF use green or brown or some variation thereof?
Are the runways the USAF use a color similar to the ABU pattern?
Would it make sense to authorize USAF personnel "embedded" or "deployed" in environments where the ABU is not appropriate to where the Combat Uniform of the dominant US Military Force? i.e. if attached to US Army, wear OCP, or if in an arid plains environment with Marines, wear MARPAT.
Are the runways the USAF use a color similar to the ABU pattern?
Would it make sense to authorize USAF personnel "embedded" or "deployed" in environments where the ABU is not appropriate to where the Combat Uniform of the dominant US Military Force? i.e. if attached to US Army, wear OCP, or if in an arid plains environment with Marines, wear MARPAT.
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Hmmm, because all of the AF is on a flightline? Lol
As long as the new uniform is "______________"... what, Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS ??? As long as it is......... we are good to go!!! :)
As long as the new uniform is "______________"... what, Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS ??? As long as it is......... we are good to go!!! :)
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
CMSgt (Join to see) I thought it would be condescending to ask if the uniform adequately camouflaged USAF personnel when sitting in chairs or in an office environment:p
I'm working under the assumption that the vast majority of the USAF personnel that actually REQUIRE CAMOUFLAGING is located on or about Air Bases, where the centerpiece would be a runway, or equipment in support of said runway.
Those that don't require camo, can be wearing bright purple, or their service uniform. The utility uniform is a matter of convenience more than anything else, and the color doesn't come into play.
My questions above highlight that. Why would the USAF adopt a green/brown uniform, if the vast majority of the time most Airmen aren't in green/brown environments (hence the swap from BDU to ABU). Most urban environments, where the USAF does operate are "grey." Flightlines are an extension of that. Military aircraft are extension of that. It's not an attempt to say that Airman spend all their time on flight lines. It's trying to say that if an Airman needs camouflage, chances are it will be on a flightline, as compared to a woodland enviroment (since planes don't land in the woods).
But, that said, they absolutely should be buttery soft. We have the technology.
I'm working under the assumption that the vast majority of the USAF personnel that actually REQUIRE CAMOUFLAGING is located on or about Air Bases, where the centerpiece would be a runway, or equipment in support of said runway.
Those that don't require camo, can be wearing bright purple, or their service uniform. The utility uniform is a matter of convenience more than anything else, and the color doesn't come into play.
My questions above highlight that. Why would the USAF adopt a green/brown uniform, if the vast majority of the time most Airmen aren't in green/brown environments (hence the swap from BDU to ABU). Most urban environments, where the USAF does operate are "grey." Flightlines are an extension of that. Military aircraft are extension of that. It's not an attempt to say that Airman spend all their time on flight lines. It's trying to say that if an Airman needs camouflage, chances are it will be on a flightline, as compared to a woodland enviroment (since planes don't land in the woods).
But, that said, they absolutely should be buttery soft. We have the technology.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
I love bright purple.. I also love buttery soft bright purple... To whom do I need to speak about this?
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I love bright purple.. I also love buttery soft bright purple... To whom do I need to speak about this?
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Funny thing, you can! It is also bright purple and buttery soft...
I will let Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS 'splain... :)
Funny thing, you can! It is also bright purple and buttery soft...
I will let Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS 'splain... :)
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
So I sent an email to the ACJoC. We couldn't get Purple ABU approved, but...
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Yes I do believe we should. It would temporarily cost more money, but if we had one set uniform then it would allow the DoD to save money in research, and having to make so many different kinds of uniforms. Also using the "one military, one uniform" argument. Our dress uniforms is what set us apart.
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In my opinion, all services should wear the same combat uniform when on or around the battlefield. I used to hear the counter argument about losing heritage or pride in one's branch of service. To me that is what the different Service Dress Uniforms provide. When its time to go to battle, one team, one uniform, one fight.
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If all branches would go back to the same uniform we could, potentially, save millions on research and development alone.
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Longing for the days of the BDU, where the only real difference were tapes, ranks & covers (for Navy/Marines). Whole lot of money saved there. You could easily integrate the tech updates from the ABU/ACU into the BDU.
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