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The Army is the only service to wear unit and combat patches? Should they simplify the uniform and remove unit patches? "shoulder sleeve insignia".
I understand in some uniforms services may wear a patch. I'm talking about the every day uniform.
I understand in some uniforms services may wear a patch. I'm talking about the every day uniform.
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No, unit identification should NEVER be eliminated.<br><br>Unit patches, currently assigned or deployment, create a sense of esprit-de-corps.<div><br></div><div>The Army is the largest military organization and, unlike the Marine Corps where the esprit-de-corps lies within its foundation, its esprit-de-corps lies within its units.</div>
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CPO Rob Carleen
It’s part of the Army, just like in the Navy, our dress uniforms have a unit patch on the right shoulder and our rating badge not only shows rank but specialty. Never change to be like someone else.
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PO2 John Frost
When I was getting out of the US Coast Guard, they were doing away with unit ball caps. Because they weren’t uniform, they didn’t look the same and command units had to wear USCG hats. Sad I had to put my unit ball cap in a drawer and only wear after I got out. I have 4 caps for four different units.
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<p>No! Hell No! </p><p>It provides identity. Combat patches tell a story about the soldier wearing them. It promotes espirit-de-corps/unit cohesiveness.</p><p> The Air Force removed unit patches when we switched over to the ABU from the BDU. The driving factor was cost. It cost to much to have patches sewn on, OH Please!! I have since seen unit pride decline, and people adopt attitudes such as " I can do what I want in public, because no one knows what unit I belong too". People no longer know the history/heraldry of their unit, because they no longer wear the patch which means they don't get asked those types of questions any more.</p><p> It breeds leadership, when you see someone wearing your unit patch, even if you don't know them, you acknowledge them and you correct them when they are doing something wrong. No recognition and you just walk right on by with the "not my troop, not my problem" mentality.</p>
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1SG David Niles
SFC (Join to see) - our higher hq was in Hawaii. I was in Washington. But when we had training I was able to go to Hawaii and I lived my time there. Camp Smith is a bit small though.
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PFC Maxo Marc
There's no way they should remove patches. When you see a soldier with the Ranger battalion scroll that let's you who you dealing with. When you see a soldier with the 101st patch you know the quality of individual who wears it. Those patches tell a story and if the army did away with you might as well throw out the rich army history with it.
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No, I don't believe patches should be eliminated. A patch shows distinction and shows others the unit you belong to. Regarding combat patches, it tells others the units you have been with and, at least for me, it sparks conversations. <br>
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Absolutely not. The unit patch is one of the historic things that is essential for esprit de corps. It is significant for quick recognition of higher command if missing or separated from unit. It is one of the things I am proud is an Army tradition.
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Agreed CSM, as well as, paying homage to those who have gone before. Nothing like getting gas off post and a Veteran says I was in (insert organization) back in 1970!
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I remember after graduating AIT and reporting to unit for the first time. I had Battle Assembly like a week after graduation. Our UA handed me my unit patch and I so proud to wear it. I earned it! The Army should never do away with unit patches.
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We could bring the Army budget way down, from just not printing 1st Cav patches...
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CPT (Join to see)
They already looked at that.
Cuts Won't Reduce Size Of First Cavalry Division Patch
FORT HOOD, TX –As conventional budget cuts loom on the heels of sequestration, leaders across the military are considering innovative and helpful ways to lower operating costs without hurting unit training or weapons qualifications.However, one common-sense suggestion — “a no-brainer” according to one Pentagon official — has ruined at least one officer’s career on the …
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SGT(P) (Join to see)
Your Unit Supply issues you a unit patch as part of in-processing, along with 2x DUI's, and a PT Belt. Been like this at every unit I have been in in 11 years of the Army.
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1SG (Join to see)
We can't reduce the size of the 1CAV patch, if we do the army will spend more money issuing them blankets (since they wouldn't be able to use the smaller patch as a blanket :) ).
I once had a "patch changing ceremony" done when my unit went from B co under the 244th EN to the 409th EN Company.
I once had a "patch changing ceremony" done when my unit went from B co under the 244th EN to the 409th EN Company.
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I thought that the velcro patch on the shoulders was already too big then they went and made it larger for the entire Army just to accomodate the 1st cav...
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HELL NO! Let me repeat that. HELL NO!
Unit patches have many purposes like, shows what unit a soldier is in and helps create pride in a unit.
And I will say now, if anyone told me to take off one of my Combat Patches the answer they would get is GO To HELL! I earned those patches and am proud to show I served this country in combat and what units I was with.
Each soldier is not the same, what they accomplish is not the same, where they are at and where they been are not the same. People need to stop trying to make soldiers into some generic egg in a carton of generic eggs.
Unit patches have many purposes like, shows what unit a soldier is in and helps create pride in a unit.
And I will say now, if anyone told me to take off one of my Combat Patches the answer they would get is GO To HELL! I earned those patches and am proud to show I served this country in combat and what units I was with.
Each soldier is not the same, what they accomplish is not the same, where they are at and where they been are not the same. People need to stop trying to make soldiers into some generic egg in a carton of generic eggs.
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I love the patches I wear on my uniform. I am proud of the units I have served with and am extremely proud of the unit I deployed with. I also don't believe that the unit patch or combat patch do much to "weigh" down the uniform. <br><br>If soldiers are thought of differently based on those two particular patches, then that is a soldier issue, not a patch issue.<br>
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MAJ Samuel Weber
Not to mention when another Soldier is wearing the same combat patch. It always strikes up a conversation about where and who you served with.
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SSG (Join to see)
Sir, no doubt. That was part of my point. I like to ask those who have the same FWS-SSI as I do as to whom they were with and when. Definitely a great conversation starter.
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SGT (Join to see) No, never!!! I am so proud to wear the "garita". Everywhere I go people know I am from Puerto Rico. The 1st Mission Support Command is the largest federal U.S. Army Command in Puerto Rico and the Caribbean.
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