Posted on Dec 24, 2013
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I personally think we all looked a little more professional wearing a beret although it didn't block the sun from blazing your eyes.
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Maj Chris Nelson
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Being prior Army, when the Army un-assed the Rangers from the black beret, I was sick. If there MUST be berets, keep it with the "special" people... Airborne, rangers, and special forces. From my medical perspective, the hat that makes the MOST sense is the boonie hat. Sun protection to ears, face, and neck. Lots of people will cringe because they don't think the boonie hat is professional looking, but medically and utilitarian wise, makes the most sense.
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SFC Fernando Campos
SFC Fernando Campos
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Those of us that wore the Black Beret were indeed besides ourselves when it was stripped from the Battalions. We earned them dearly, they were not a given. Talk about an insult. Notice they did not dare do it with the Green Berets, in fact back in the early 90s, too many psy ops outfits opconned to SF were wearing the GB, including many female types. That caused an uproar, that is when it was stipulated you had to pass the Q course to get the SF tab and then be authorized the GB. No tab, no green beret. Psy Ops went to maroon berets as long as they earned their wings. Otherwise they wore a PC.
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1SG Clifford Hendricks
1SG Clifford Hendricks
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I think it is tha ugliest piece of clothing that the Army ever issued. It is totally useless and anyone that thinks it is good to use French clothing had better go back and read your history books.
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Capt Christian D. Orr
Capt Christian D. Orr
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Maj Chris Nelson As a former beret-wearer myself, albeit as an Air Force puke (Security Forces), I concur with you wholeheartedly. In the USAF, only certain career fields (Security Forces, PJ/CCT, Combat Weather, TACP) earn berets, i.e. it's not an all-across-the-board awarded to all troops who merely graduate Basic Military Training (BMT).
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SFC Owner/Operator
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The beret was nothing but another bad decision by the Army.
Just like the "Army of one" slogan and stress free basic training.
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1SG Steven Stankovich
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<p>Personally, I was never a big fan of the beret as the replacement to the patrol cap as the headgear for the duty uniform.&nbsp; I didn't feel it was practical&nbsp;in the motor pool, in sunny weather, in the rain, etc...&nbsp;&nbsp; With that being said, my opinion was not asked when the decision was made.&nbsp; I, along with everyone else in the Army at the time, complied...two bags full and moved out.&nbsp; </p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Here is a little humor from PowerPoint Ranger reference the different "styles" that we saw during the "Age of the Black Beret..."</p>
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A1C Lisa Casserly
A1C Lisa Casserly
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Laughing.... remembering the last day in Tech training. I finished out processing, then went for the bus... and missed it by about 3 seconds. I didn't want to miss my plane, so I walked back to the Student Triangle. (Air Force, Keesler AFB, 1984.) When I started walking, it was cloudy. A few blocks, and it was sprinkling. By the end of the third block, it was pouring rain. I arrived at the dormitory looking like a drowned rat, squelching in my low quarters. I hurriedly changed to a dry uniform and my brand new, unused beret, putting all the wet clothes including the soaked beret into a plastic bag, and into my luggage. Took off for the transport to the airport. When I got home to Minnesota on my leave, I took the clothes out of the suitcase... and found that the beret had shrunk to the size of doll clothes!! No. I don't think the wool beret is very practical.
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CPT Ray Doeksen
CPT Ray Doeksen
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A black cloth patrol cap (or whatever!) might have been nice for anyone that gets their hands greasy doing maintenance work ... that's the origin of the British tanker black beret, I heard. Hats ought to be practical, there should be way to store them on your person that doesn't make them unpresentable, or they should be designed to be tucked in somewhere, rolled up somehow ... stowed when not in use. They shouldn't be prissy foppish things.
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SGT Carl Blas
SGT Carl Blas
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Thank you Sir, was very funny.
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SSG John Eroh
SSG John Eroh
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CPT Ray Doeksen - The good things about the baseball cap (retired in '86) was that the back could be folded in and the bill inserted under your belt in back or then folded in half to be put in a pocket. It also kept the rain off my glasses and sun out of my eyes.

The garrison cap could be pulled up under your belt on your side or folded & put in your Class A jacket pocket.

I also think the beret should be for Special Forces, Rangers etc. like the Calvary has there hat and that otherwise the hats should be practicable like the boonies hats we had in Vietnam. BTW, my boonies hat from 'Nam is too small now & I had hair then. I guess my head grew from all the extra smarts I've acquired since then. lol
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SSG Ncoic, Department Of Hospital Education & Staff Development
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That's a quick way to get banned from this site.
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SGT Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
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SSG Jesse Denton - There is only one Stetson. It is Black ,And only for Cav Air or Armored. After earning it.
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LTC Erik Spike Thiesmeyer, Sr.
LTC Erik Spike Thiesmeyer, Sr.
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And "Stetson" is a brand. My Cav Hat was custom made for me in Killeen outside Ft. Hood. It's 4xxx thick beaver pelt.
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1LT Rich Voss
1LT Rich Voss
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Never saw the Cav officers nor enlisted attached to us in Germany wear that "Cav Hat" mentioned by several here. I'm a pre any "Reforger", Fulda Gap armor officer. I certainly saw the one made famous in that "little Viet Nam" movie, and have seen them in pictures on this site. They certainly harken back to the days we actually rode horses, AND had uniforms more akin to dress blues. I actually like the hat worn by G. S. Patton and his group after graduation for West Point. But he was an actual horse soldier then, as were they. We wore what was "lovingly" called a Ball Cap, or during our ridiculous Winters the equally loved "Mickey Mouse" hat. Mostly a CVC. Hah !
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SSG John Eroh
SSG John Eroh
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1LT Rich Voss - During Reforger I sat at the Rhine Ordnance Barracks railhead with the CO's jeep since it had the radio & a wrecker while vehicles were being loaded. Also escorted convoys between Kaiserslautern and Mannheim. I was in the 508th Collection, Classification & Salvage Co. (Army junk yard) in the commo section in 68/69.
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