Posted on Mar 17, 2016
SM is being recommended for an ARCOM which he currently has 5 x ARCOMS. Do you place w/ 5OLC or 1SLC? This came up today as a question.
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On the DA Form 638 it would be ARCOM, 5 OLC. OLC doesn't represent bronze or silver, just a Oak Leaf Cluster. You do not specify on the form a Silver OLC or Bronze OLC only the number of total OLC. The award itself would get the Silver OLC. If the SM gets a seventh ARCOM you wouldn't write 1 SOLC AND 1 BOLC. It would just be 6 OLC. and they would wear one silver and one bronze. It gets tricky when you get to 10.
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A silver oak leaf (or star in case of Navy/Marines) is worn in lieu of 4 bronze oak leafs.
Keep in mind that you may only wear 4 accoutrements on a ribbon however which can create some "weird" issues however if you have other devices like V's, or higher numbers of awards.
So as an example, you will go:
Ribbon = 1, Ribbon + OLC = 2, Ribbon +2OLC = 3, Ribbon + 4OLC = 5, Ribbon + Silver OLC = 6.
however 2xRibbon with V + 3 = 5 (because you can't wear 5 devices on a single Ribbon). You end up wearing second ribbon.
Keep in mind that you may only wear 4 accoutrements on a ribbon however which can create some "weird" issues however if you have other devices like V's, or higher numbers of awards.
So as an example, you will go:
Ribbon = 1, Ribbon + OLC = 2, Ribbon +2OLC = 3, Ribbon + 4OLC = 5, Ribbon + Silver OLC = 6.
however 2xRibbon with V + 3 = 5 (because you can't wear 5 devices on a single Ribbon). You end up wearing second ribbon.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SFC (Join to see) - It's any time that you would go over 4 apertures. A V can result in that at 5 (5th Award plus V) because you would need 1 aperture for the V, and 4 Bronze OLC. You can't wear them all on the same ribbon, therefore 2 ribbons, V device and 3 Bronze OLC.
It's the same concept as 10, but the V makes it happen sooner.
It's the same concept as 10, but the V makes it happen sooner.
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SFC (Join to see) I am in disbelief! The Army system now gives awards rather than promotion and responsibility? Something is wrong in the cited scenario!
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CSM Charles Hayden
Nowadays medals are passed out for doing a good job? Isn't good performance expected - or bust the person for non-performance! Why not promote the person/even "Acting Jacks- Corporal/Sgts), and assign them greater responsibilities? Medals do not spend, teach or fairly reward outstanding performance!
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101st has a blatantly discriminatory awards policy. Why not award what is earned? This goes back to the '80s when I was there.
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I was in the 101st 1991-95 when it comes to awards blatant discrimination comes to no surprise
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SFC (Join to see)
Sorry...wrong answer, You're not understanding the question, it's not about getting an award, but the wording on the DA 638 for the award.
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SFC Paul Garza
I agree... I think it really depends on what your command wants to say is the standard.
Some units/organizations will blanket awards for multiple personnel to make things easy. I know that I have been in several units and they all had their own spin on how they wanted to process things.
Some units/organizations will blanket awards for multiple personnel to make things easy. I know that I have been in several units and they all had their own spin on how they wanted to process things.
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