Posted on Mar 9, 2018
SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter
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These topics turn friends and family members against each other. We all are entitled to our opinion. However it always seem to puzzle me when you can provide hard facts and the other person continues to be in denial. They are trapped in their own world and closed minded.
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CPT Jack Durish
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Well, I have no problem with partisan politics. That's just natural. I have no problem with guns, but a great many problems with the idiot conversations being incited by people who are allowing fear to guide their thinking. I have no problems with immigration. Each and every one of us living in the Americas is an immigrant or the descendant of an immigrant. Hurray for immigration! (I sure would not want to be living anywhere else). Now, if you want to talk about illegal trespass on our nation's borders, that's a horse of a different color...
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PO1 Mary Vermont
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Each and everyone of us did not break the law to get here and then make demand after we got here
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None of the above rank in my top 5, however I guess that is where the media wants us to focus.

BTW, my top 5 would be:

Money/Corporate Influence in Politics
Climate Change
Long term Economic Outlook/Opportunity in the US
The potential for Nuclear Conflict
Education
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I would add to your first one Money/Corporate/Union influence in politics.
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MSgt (Join to see) - Unions, like any human institution are subject to corruption and that is a problem... that said, I don't see how they have enough power to be a serious problem when the Union is corrupt or enough power to stand up for working people when the Union is trying to do it's job.
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SP5 Jerry Mucha
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The union influence is very widespread, mainly in the democrat party. The use of union dues to finance political campaigns FOR union gain is very corrupt and they do have enormous power in every election. This is not a minor thing.
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The headlines guns, partisan politics and immigration. Of them which are you more passionate about? And why?
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LTC Stephen F.
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Radical partisan politics is of more concern to me SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter since it impacts every other area of policy making and legislation.
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SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter
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LTC Stephen F. Yes very true unfortunately it seems to be getting more radical. Thanks for sharing

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LCDR Sales & Proposals Manager Gas Turbine Products
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I'm passionate about common sense. What makes "sense" isn't always easy, doesn't always make everyone happy, and rarely fits within the "lines" of any specific "side".
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MAJ James Woods
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Interesting that gun control leads in your survey considering both gun control and immigration policies are both influenced by partisan politics. The inability for discussions and debates to remain objective, focused on facts, and respect for others opinions is due to the volatile partisan nature of those involved.
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SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter
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MAJ James Woods By all means I respect your comment very well said.
What's sad about all of this is the each person have their own opinion however when these issues come up neither side is willing to reasonable discuss it and respect the others belief or opinion. Again neither of the previous mentioned are facts.
Thanks for sharing.

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They're all tied together really. Immigration is a problem, but access to guns will allow you to protect yourself from those who would intend to do harm. With the partisan politics, each side respectively wants to restrict one and ease restrictions on the other. As far as I'm concerned, there is only one right side in that debate...
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LTC Multifunctional Logistician
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Two of the three are well regulated. One of the three corrupts the other two. All are used at times to deflect the real news and keep the base enraged.
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SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter
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LTC (Join to see) I agree with you in so few words you summed it up. The key points real news and keep the base enraged are very key factors. Thanks for sharing your comment.

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TSgt David L.
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I'm passionate about being an American. Life in America is about all of these things. Separating issues from the ones you don't like is a lesson in futility. They all need to be addressed as they come. I don't have they energy to argue about them all. Guns, separate from gun control is easy. It's my right to own firearms. Having to click gun control, as a gun issue is click bait! Not biting today!
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SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter
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TSgt David L. I truly respect your comment. As guns are discussed in the media and by politicians gun control is always in the same discussion. Here in California where the gun laws or control of guns however one wants to view are very strict. However that has done nothing to deter the criminal eliminate from getting access to guns. Although the lawmakers that drafted up the laws stated it would accomplish that. I can live with the laws as for me they are more of a nuisance than anything else. As I see you are a resident of Arizona correct me if I am wrong the gun laws there are some of the most lenient in the country. Thanks for your comment.

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TSgt David L.
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SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter -I tried not to sound pissy with my comments but when in the presence of trollers, I keep my guard up. Now we can be friends! LOL
Ahh. Kalifornia. Got it. I have some friends there. Gun guys! One is a cop if you can believe that. He ordered tons of ammo last year so he would have it now. He deals with the laws, but isn't pleased.

Arizona is a Constitutional carry state. Wyoming is as well. My home state of Montana had it vetoed by our illustrious governor. I'm sure we'll get it to pass. Pretty lenient, yes, and a very polite society. As most armed ones are!
I appreciate your thoughts, Skip!
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SPC David S.
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Seems the first two are really subsets of the third choice - they are used via identity politics to divide us so I'd have to go with partisan politics as that is the larger big picture problem driving the subset arguments.
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