Posted on Nov 30, 2015
U.S. Marine veteran was required to stand outside in 40 degree rainy weather Saturday to collect donations for Toys for Tots.
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Walmart, in Medina, Ohio kicked out a Marine collecting money for Toys For Tots. It was raining and 40 degrees. If I lived in Medina, Ohio, I wouldn't shop in that Walmart ever again. They not only pay minimum wages, they won't allow anyone in the store collecting money, no matter what it's for. But, witnesses say they have seen the Marines in the store in the past years collecting money for Toys For Tots. I Included some of the remarks made about this story. What do you think Rally Point community?
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MEDINA, Ohio – Outraged Twitter and Facebook users created a frenzy after a U.S. Marine veteran was required to stand outside a Medina Walmart store in rainy, 40-degree weather Saturday to collect donations for Toys for Tots.
MEDINA, Ohio – Outraged Twitter and Facebook users created a frenzy after a U.S. Marine veteran was required to stand outside a Medina Walmart store in rainy, 40-degree weather Saturday to collect donations for Toys for Tots.
A woman customer took a photo of John Harkness standing outside the store under an overhang. For at least 15 years previously, the Walmart store had allowed volunteers to stand inside the store, according to WJW.
However, Walmart's corporate headquarters released a statement saying its policy does not allow such solicitation inside any of its stores, and it said it was looking into the matter in Medina. The statement also said if the Marine was treated with disrespect, that would be unacceptable.
Word of the incident spread like wildfire on social media, with angry users re-tweeting the photograph of the Marine, along with words like "disgrace" and the hashtags "#boycott #Walmart."
"Shame on you Walmart!" one user tweeted.
See a Storify box of the comments below.
While comments on Twitter and Facebook seemed overwhelmingly critical of the Walmart decision to leave the Marine outside, commenters on cleveland.com were divided in their opinions. Here is what a few had to say:
Clevberg: Store policy is store policy. Many businesses don't even allow soliciting on their premises. The only issue I see is that particular Walmart either didn't know the policy or chose to bend the rules in prior years.
biggswede: No offense to this gentleman, but if the Cub Scouts are made to stand outside (which they are in all sorts of weather), a Marine should be able to handle it.
A Good Guy With A Gun: Think about it folks. You have a solicitor outside your store. It begins to rain and it's cold. Is it REALLY such a huge problem to tell the person it's OK to get in out of the rain and cold? Honestly, in a place like Walmart with a huge entrance, the solicitor standing off to one side inside the lobby near the entrance is a problem? Would even be nicer if Walmart offered the solicitor a hot chocolate too.
Badger937: Mr. Harkness wasn't complaining yet some busy body comes along and causes a stink. The company has a policy. Groups are told the rules and have to abide by them. I don't see many other stores even allowing someone to solicit outside their business. Two weeks ago I bought some candy from a group of Boy Scouts outside the Strongsville Walmart. I watched going in how most people ignored them. The young man asked me politely if it wanted to buy anything. Gave him a couple extra dollars. I remember what it was like when I did that as a teenager.
wildcuyahoga: A sad day. I'm sure the corporate Walmart policy's been there for some time, but probably the former Medina managers just chose to ignore it. Just because I would save a few pennies at Walmart doesn't mean I'll ever go there. I give my business to the small guys and Made-in-America where I can.
And now the rest of this terrible story:
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MEDINA, Ohio – Outraged Twitter and Facebook users created a frenzy after a U.S. Marine veteran was required to stand outside a Medina Walmart store in rainy, 40-degree weather Saturday to collect donations for Toys for Tots.
MEDINA, Ohio – Outraged Twitter and Facebook users created a frenzy after a U.S. Marine veteran was required to stand outside a Medina Walmart store in rainy, 40-degree weather Saturday to collect donations for Toys for Tots.
A woman customer took a photo of John Harkness standing outside the store under an overhang. For at least 15 years previously, the Walmart store had allowed volunteers to stand inside the store, according to WJW.
However, Walmart's corporate headquarters released a statement saying its policy does not allow such solicitation inside any of its stores, and it said it was looking into the matter in Medina. The statement also said if the Marine was treated with disrespect, that would be unacceptable.
Word of the incident spread like wildfire on social media, with angry users re-tweeting the photograph of the Marine, along with words like "disgrace" and the hashtags "#boycott #Walmart."
"Shame on you Walmart!" one user tweeted.
See a Storify box of the comments below.
While comments on Twitter and Facebook seemed overwhelmingly critical of the Walmart decision to leave the Marine outside, commenters on cleveland.com were divided in their opinions. Here is what a few had to say:
Clevberg: Store policy is store policy. Many businesses don't even allow soliciting on their premises. The only issue I see is that particular Walmart either didn't know the policy or chose to bend the rules in prior years.
biggswede: No offense to this gentleman, but if the Cub Scouts are made to stand outside (which they are in all sorts of weather), a Marine should be able to handle it.
A Good Guy With A Gun: Think about it folks. You have a solicitor outside your store. It begins to rain and it's cold. Is it REALLY such a huge problem to tell the person it's OK to get in out of the rain and cold? Honestly, in a place like Walmart with a huge entrance, the solicitor standing off to one side inside the lobby near the entrance is a problem? Would even be nicer if Walmart offered the solicitor a hot chocolate too.
Badger937: Mr. Harkness wasn't complaining yet some busy body comes along and causes a stink. The company has a policy. Groups are told the rules and have to abide by them. I don't see many other stores even allowing someone to solicit outside their business. Two weeks ago I bought some candy from a group of Boy Scouts outside the Strongsville Walmart. I watched going in how most people ignored them. The young man asked me politely if it wanted to buy anything. Gave him a couple extra dollars. I remember what it was like when I did that as a teenager.
wildcuyahoga: A sad day. I'm sure the corporate Walmart policy's been there for some time, but probably the former Medina managers just chose to ignore it. Just because I would save a few pennies at Walmart doesn't mean I'll ever go there. I give my business to the small guys and Made-in-America where I can.
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at the two Wal-Mart's I go to, the bell ringers are always outside of Wal-Mart.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
SGT (Join to see) - I actually have not seen any really gross people at Wal-Mart....my Walmart is in an area of town where people would not dress like that....and I get things for good prices there...I have certain things I buy at Walmart and certain things from Costco...and some at HEB....HEB ran everyone out of town, so we do not have Tom THumb or Albertsons, or ALDI's, or Krogers....oh how I would love to have a Kroger's here....we have HEB or Walmart.
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Sgt Kelli Mays, Honestly, I've never seen anyone dressed like that either. It's just too many people being rude, for me to go there. There's never anyone available to ask a question about something I'm looking for. If l finally find someone to ask, they don't know. I go to Target. I know where most everything is there. If I don't know there are plenty of knowledgeable people to ask. We shop at HEB. I go to Kroger for steaks. We have an Aldi too, but it's too crowded for me. I don't do crowds, period.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
SGT (Join to see) - oh how I wish we had a Kroger's. I know where everything is in both Walmarts...besides my nail lady is in Walmart...and since Walgreens no longer takes Tri Care, I do a one stop shop at Walmart. Milk, veggies, get my nails done and get meds...that was yesterdays agenda. IDK...never been too fond of Target...it may be because I loath the color red and Target is red all around...lol
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Sgt Kelli Mays, They have good prices on electronics and memory merchandise. That's mainly why I go there. Can't believe in San Antonio all of those markets closed down because of HEB.
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This is nothing new, my daughters Girl Scout troop isn't allowed inside to sell cookies. Company policy.
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I just wonder out of all the people who were concerned for the marine , how many donated and who bought him the cup of coffee that every one feels shouldve been given to him.
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I hate it, but Walmart's policy has always been fund raisers are outside. Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Salvation Army all are outside. heck a Marine is tougher than them. If you see one outside, buy him a cup of coffee, shake his hand and say Semper Fi.
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There was a news segment about it on MSNBC. The customers interviewed were not happy about it. Corporate said the other manager didn't follow the rules. I say, good for him.
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This story went around Facebook. You can contact their Customer Service and voice your opinion to them. The Store Manager's name (who made the policy change) is Robin Wright.
Walmart Supercenter #1894
4141 Pearl Rd, Medina, OH 44256
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The Salvation Army, Boy/Girl Scouts, Cubs, Brownies and other organizations are required to stand outside as well, regardless of the weather, and like this Marine, have done so, willingly, for a number of years... I don't think the Marine had an issue with it and FB are being their ridiculously, crazy, sheepishly, uneducated, little selves...
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MSgt Curtis Ellis, Well, everyone gets to chime in these days. This too will disappear in time.
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Most American corporations are mostly about profit, they will use patriotism as a vehicle for profit (see NFL as an example) but don't really care, with exceptions.
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Sgt Nick Marshall, Retail stores are a dime a dozen now. They need to rethink their policies concerning the military when a charity like Toys For Tots or Salvation Army needs to collect donations.
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Sure, and if using a program like toys for tots (which I've participated in for 30 years) brings in customers without it costing them, they'll do it. Corporations will use patriotism for profit, as they move their HQ overseas to avoid paying US taxes or their top shareholders using tax havens for the same reason.
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Well Walmart supports a Chinese communist regime by buying their products so this does not surprise me.
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SSG (ret) William Martin, You know, you're correct. I remember when they were so proud of all their stock being made in the USA, they advertised that. Old Sam Walton got rich and cheap.
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SSG (ret) William Martin, They've gone downhill as far as I'm concerned. Those Walmart people pictures are not funny.
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I suspect that is Corporate rules. Some will allow you to raise money or whatever on Property but not inside. Some will let you inside. Some will not even allow you on Property.
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