Posted on Jun 18, 2015
UPDATE2: This type of mass murder doesn't happen in other "advanced countries". *At least not at this magnitude*. Is this a true statement?
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The shooting of 9 innocent churchgoers in Charleston, South Carolina was a senseless tragedy but leave it up to our President to politicize and discount the ...
President Obama addresses America about the reckless, ignorant shooting at the Charleston Carolina Church. I really am glad he addressed what is going on, and I think in a very positive way...
What happened there at that Church, Ugh I hate it! It's dumb and pathetic. Prayers to those involved! Senseless!! I'm glad they caught the SOB so they can have some justice. Those idiots usually go out the cowardly way!
However, POTUS Obama states that the people who are getting these weapons to do these kinds of acts, well it's too easy. I agree that people that are deemed mentally Ill, yes, it just might be. But SANE people don't do these things.
POTUS: "At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency."
What I can't get over and/or don't know how to perceive this, is that he thinks this type of mass murder doesn't happen anywhere else. Or not in this magnitude...
When I think about what goes on in Israel, Palestine, Iran, Iraq... I am left wondering HUH??? No I don't believe what he said. LOL
Do you agree??
I included my most FAV Democrats so that we might have an adult discussion. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6siu-WLOPKI&feature=player_embedded
In my opinion, this kiddo gets it.
What happened there at that Church, Ugh I hate it! It's dumb and pathetic. Prayers to those involved! Senseless!! I'm glad they caught the SOB so they can have some justice. Those idiots usually go out the cowardly way!
However, POTUS Obama states that the people who are getting these weapons to do these kinds of acts, well it's too easy. I agree that people that are deemed mentally Ill, yes, it just might be. But SANE people don't do these things.
POTUS: "At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency."
What I can't get over and/or don't know how to perceive this, is that he thinks this type of mass murder doesn't happen anywhere else. Or not in this magnitude...
When I think about what goes on in Israel, Palestine, Iran, Iraq... I am left wondering HUH??? No I don't believe what he said. LOL
Do you agree??
I included my most FAV Democrats so that we might have an adult discussion. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6siu-WLOPKI&feature=player_embedded
In my opinion, this kiddo gets it.
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No, it doesn't happen in any other country.
Instead of getting shot, ISIS beheads 50 Coptic Christians on a beach...
Yeah, we're the barbarians.
Instead of getting shot, ISIS beheads 50 Coptic Christians on a beach...
Yeah, we're the barbarians.
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MAJ (Join to see)
It's politicizing an issue, even Finland has had mass homocides in the last ten years.
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Cpl Glynis Sakowicz
Oh yes it does happen... 77 children dead in Norway...Finland, Paris, England where a man shoot up a nursery school... oh, and did I mention that Guns are against the law in these countries?
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It happens everywhere. take a look at what is going on in South Africa and across the middle east. There are the cases of a few lunatics getting their hands on a gun, might I add, illegally, but the media throws it all out of reality. Cant blame everyone for the single idiot that shoots up a church.
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I believe the government chooses to ignore the mental health issue. We are the first internet generation and there is no better way to convince the world that the sky is falling than to use fear to further whatever agenda has the strongest following. This is not a gun failure, it is a mental health failure. Our nation is awesome because it promotes freedom of the individual. The downsize is that it prevents the government from doing many preventive measures to protect the public from the scores of people who are ticking timebombs. Blame the gun. It is a great political platform to further your cause. You can get elected by demonizing the weapon as the culprit, but you also score big points by defending the constitutional right to bear arms. Meanwhile, millions of law abiding citizens are at risk for the actions of others, and the government's inability to deal with the mental health issues.
Let's really piss people off and make alcohol illegal. Many more people die from being victim to drunk drivers. The jails are full of people who did stupid stuff when they were drunk out of their skulls. (Prohibition. Yeah, that worked out great.) Attack the issue logically, not emotionally. In the psychology world, they do not focus on the act that brought the patient into the office. They look to get to the root cause of the problem and try to fix the past issue that made the thinking irrational. Anyone go or try to go to sniper school? What was the first hurdle that had to be passed before the government trained you to be a sniper? They got inside your brain at the mental health office and made sure you weren't a psycho like this jagoff. I want everyone to be safe, but not at the expense of the 99.9% who are law abiding. Attack the issue logically, not emotionally.
POTUS's statement should be given the hairy eyeball and laughed at. Looking forward to 2016.
Let's really piss people off and make alcohol illegal. Many more people die from being victim to drunk drivers. The jails are full of people who did stupid stuff when they were drunk out of their skulls. (Prohibition. Yeah, that worked out great.) Attack the issue logically, not emotionally. In the psychology world, they do not focus on the act that brought the patient into the office. They look to get to the root cause of the problem and try to fix the past issue that made the thinking irrational. Anyone go or try to go to sniper school? What was the first hurdle that had to be passed before the government trained you to be a sniper? They got inside your brain at the mental health office and made sure you weren't a psycho like this jagoff. I want everyone to be safe, but not at the expense of the 99.9% who are law abiding. Attack the issue logically, not emotionally.
POTUS's statement should be given the hairy eyeball and laughed at. Looking forward to 2016.
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
Some of those who are mentally ill, borderline mentally ill and functional mentally ill are running our governments, churches and corporations. We give them these powers, our money because of our own fears, hopes and angers. Perhaps some of these mentally ill could just be immature.
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SPC Don Stringer
Great Post SFC Merino.
One of the problems we have as a nation are politicians who seek and profit of division. It benefits them to divide instead of unite.
Another problem is, personal responsibility, accountability is no longer expected.
One of the problems we have as a nation are politicians who seek and profit of division. It benefits them to divide instead of unite.
Another problem is, personal responsibility, accountability is no longer expected.
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SFC Mark Merino
Agreed SPC Don Stringer, there is no money to be made on any disease when a cure is provided. The money is in the prolonged fight to get there.
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I think it happens all over it's just that other countries don't have the media outlets we have so you know about it 3 minutes later. There's that mess in Africa with the kidnapped girls, there have been shootings in England, the sarin gas in Japan a few years back. Then again were each so broiled in our own domestic messes, would any county's media play up something that happened elsewhere unless it was really big?
PS: Veronica, I don't self identify as adult. but thanks :-) I generally rate about extreme adolescent at best.
PS: Veronica, I don't self identify as adult. but thanks :-) I generally rate about extreme adolescent at best.
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LTC Bink Romanick
Yes in places like Nicaragua, Nigeria and other 3d world nations but not in the industrialized world,
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SGT Jeremiah B.
PO3 Jason Melito and SFC John Pulatie , in context of the full quote, the president was NOT saying that it doesn't happen in other countries at all. He was saying that regular mass shootings are not a thing in those countries. This is true. From 2000 to 2014, the US has had over 130 mass shootings (most were as dismal of a failure as their perpetrators had been in life). This number isn't even remotely touched by other "advanced" nations, even when combined.
Of course, we could ask what definition of advanced he's using and how those statistics are factored. Usually they exclude things like Cartel purges or terrorist attacks, instead focusing on lone perpetrators (or duos) acting on their own personal agenda.
Of course, we could ask what definition of advanced he's using and how those statistics are factored. Usually they exclude things like Cartel purges or terrorist attacks, instead focusing on lone perpetrators (or duos) acting on their own personal agenda.
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SFC John Pulatie Would the President tag this Countries as "Advanced?"
I can hear him now: "But Mr President, this happened at so and so, and this happened at so and so." And he saying "Well, I said advanced countries.... Those don't count."
I can hear him now: "But Mr President, this happened at so and so, and this happened at so and so." And he saying "Well, I said advanced countries.... Those don't count."
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PO3 Sherry Thornburg
PO3 Jason Melito - very interesting statistics. The article does not mention any countries in the Middle East or Asia or Africa. Of the European countries it does mention, they do say that 7 of the top countries on the list have restrictive gun control. If you go to the heart of the matter, which is racial violence not gun violence, I doubt we would come in at the top 10. Hatred of other races, nationalities and religions is a world wide fault in humans. As an observer for the last 20 years or more, I tend to think other countries are far more violent and blatant about that than we are. Its part of why some countries are in a constant state of war.
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