Posted on Oct 5, 2015
Want some insights on the easiest way to not get hired?
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I've now been a civilian recruiter for over 3 years since retiring. I am totally amazed that folks will fill out applications or send resumes with their phone numbers that are disconnected, vmail full or not even set up. Also, having your phone set up as not available and not letting it go to voice mail,instead having a message that says try your call again later.
Call the recruiter and leave no name or phone number when theirs is blocked. Along with some of this is answering the phone rudely because you don't recognize the number.
Recruiters may have different numbers than what you called.
These are some of the surest ways not to get a call back, national recruiters deal with a lot of applicants, you can expect to go to the bottom of the list that will probably disappear at the end of the day due to next days business.
If you want to get hired I would fix the above issues at least you may get a call back. If you don't rest assured one call is all you will get.
Call the recruiter and leave no name or phone number when theirs is blocked. Along with some of this is answering the phone rudely because you don't recognize the number.
Recruiters may have different numbers than what you called.
These are some of the surest ways not to get a call back, national recruiters deal with a lot of applicants, you can expect to go to the bottom of the list that will probably disappear at the end of the day due to next days business.
If you want to get hired I would fix the above issues at least you may get a call back. If you don't rest assured one call is all you will get.
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Generational thing. A lot of young folks don't listen to Voice Mail because they have Caller ID. I don't understand it.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
SGT Allison Churchill I know. I'm part of the "older" generation, back when we still had phones in our houses... crazy concept I know, and to find out who was calling, you picked it up.
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SGT Allison Churchill
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - I'm actually thinking of changing my outgoing message to say "Please leave me a message. I will actually listen to it!"
I keep my phone on silent during work, so I do tend to miss calls. But if I reverse search the number and people have reported to WhitePages.com that it's a spam call, I won't call back. But I did get a call from California, and they left a message, which helped me discover it was a wrong number and regarding a dinner reservation--I returned that call!
I keep my phone on silent during work, so I do tend to miss calls. But if I reverse search the number and people have reported to WhitePages.com that it's a spam call, I won't call back. But I did get a call from California, and they left a message, which helped me discover it was a wrong number and regarding a dinner reservation--I returned that call!
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - I used to get almost 120 telephone calls a week partly because I contributed to charities and politicians. I finally went to Time Warner Cable just so I could block the calls that come in most. Some of these callers will call 2-4 times a day. and using Do Not Call.gov. is useless. It's another program Congress passed without funding so there's no enforcement,
My mail box is worse with nearly 300 pieces of mail weekly from the above as well as catalogs.
My mail box is worse with nearly 300 pieces of mail weekly from the above as well as catalogs.
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SGT Allison Churchill
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - Word! I didn't get a cell phone until I got to Fort Hood, around my 25th birthday, and didn't get a smart phone until right before I turned 33 and moved to NYC.
I kind of miss dating pre-cell phones and social media.
I kind of miss dating pre-cell phones and social media.
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CSM... That's definitely an excellent list of ways NOT to get hired! I was a military recruiter for near 10 years and experienced the same kinds of non-sense and more!
I see two possibilities for Sr. Chief Bowerman's CEO "candidate"...
(1) Where ever this "thing" shows up... people are guaranteed to quickly get up and run away screaming.
(2) I'd say "it" might be just the thing... if showing up for a "screen test" for the filming of the next episode of "Lord of the Rings" or similar Sci-Fi flick... but can't think where else that kind of get up might fit.
I see two possibilities for Sr. Chief Bowerman's CEO "candidate"...
(1) Where ever this "thing" shows up... people are guaranteed to quickly get up and run away screaming.
(2) I'd say "it" might be just the thing... if showing up for a "screen test" for the filming of the next episode of "Lord of the Rings" or similar Sci-Fi flick... but can't think where else that kind of get up might fit.
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I think one of the easiest ways to not get hired is what a lot of people today do......... don't apply anywhere and depend on the taxes paid by others to take care of you. lol, jmho
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Cpl James Waycasie
CSM Michael Lynch - More seriously though, I have experienced the phone number problems many times. Also one of my biggest problems is usernames and passwords. To apply for a position with my store you have to create a username and password. I always tell them make sure you write it down exactly how you create it. If you use caps write it in caps, but write it down. If I interview you and decide to hire you, you will have to sign on to do your paperwork. I cannot count how many times I have spent time checking references, phone interview, then physical interview. I decide to hire them and we go to do the online paperwork and they do not have or know their username and or password. I always say didn't I explain to you to write it down. It can take from several hours to a few days to have Corporate track down the info. Now when I call them for an interview I ask the question do you know your username and password? If the answer is no, I respectfully decline to go any further and begin looking at my second choice application. I feel if you cannot initially follow a simple set of instructions how will you do on the job. I mean I stress the fact that you need to keep up with this much needed info. Nobody wants to spend hours searching it down for you.
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CSM Michael Lynch
Cpl James Waycasie I get the same thing when I tell them fill out the application and select me as your Recruiter, I'm the only Mike. I'll get calls days later why didn't you get back to me I'll search and find their app and let them know well I didn't because you didn't select me as the recruiter and so-so has been leaving you voicemail's, I'll let him or her know you called.
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Totally agree Michael. I have been recruiting for over 4 years; 3 with a DOD contractor. I see far too many young troops with unrealistic salary expectations for their experience. They should keep in mind that they are one of many who have those qualifications trying to gain employment.
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CDR Karl Christensen
Since I retired, I am earning less than half what I made in the military in 1992. What is a realistic salary expectation? I have also had to remove all knowledge of serving 21 years in the Navy from my resume. Times have dramatically changed where having military experience at one time was a good thing. Not any more.
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SGT Allison Churchill
CDR Karl Christensen - Did you remove your experience from your resume to avoid ageism?
Military experience is still a good thing. What was your military specialty, and is that the same field you're in now?
Military experience is still a good thing. What was your military specialty, and is that the same field you're in now?
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SGM Hal McCarthy
CDR Karl Christensen - It really depends on what you did in the military. When you say you are making less than half of what you made in the military are you including all pay or just base pay? Also the contracting salaries are going down compared to 3-4 years ago. A lot of the contracts being rebid are at a lower rate. We have seen some go down by 30% compared to what they were making. It is a tough pill to swallow; but with the drawn down there just aren't as many jobs so more people are looking for the same type of work.
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CSM Lynch has brought up several good points. In today's competitive job market, the interview begins long before and after that first contact. How a person conducts themselves online and the image they present (crazy email address/social media pages) can leave a negative impression.
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This applies to house/apartment hunting too. I own/manage a number of places and I would frequently get applications that had phone numbers which were to prepaid phones with no time, vmail not set up (or the inbox is full), rude or otherwise ridiculous answering messages, or the people answered rudely because they didn't recognize the number. I wonder how many of them are still looking for a new place to live!
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