Posted on Aug 31, 2014
Sgt Packy Flickinger
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I was in during Desert Storm and I have the national defense medal. My papers list me as a "Gulf War Veteran". I have never considered my self as a Gulf War Vet or refered to myself as such since I was never there. I don't think its right.

Do you think one who is in during a war, but not over there fighting it, is a "veteran" of that war or just a veteran?
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Cpl Michael Strickler
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The way I look at it is like this now, and it applies to all branches:

You walked through the door and (edit: held not help) up your hand. You are a veteran of the American Armed Forces.

If you did so during war time (regardless of your occupation specialty) you are a war veteran. Though it may not be likely there was still a chance you would be grabbed from the supply closet under the pentagon and shipped to a war zone with a rifle in your hand, because face it, if they need bodies they are more likely to grab you than justin beiber...

The tricky one is combat veteran. Personally I feel that you only rate that when you have been 'shot at' in some form (ied, mortar, direct, captured, etc.) because that is an actual action.

Though I feel both the war status and combat status are equal; it could have happened to any of us, not just those that left the wire. We were all there. Had our 'enemy' been more organized, equipped, etc. they could have stormed the bases or other actions that got more of the war veterans involved more actively.

And I remember talking to one of my buddies who got a small scrape after an IED attack who felt he did not deserve the Purple Heart. I told him hey, first of all, you got hurt. No matter how slight, that is what it is for. And second, IMO more importantly, you not only wear that as the one who got hurt. You wear that as a service member that has put himself in harms way, taken that harm, and come out the other side. You are in a long line of those who not only stared fear in the eye like the rest of us, but you stared fear death in the eye and kept pumping. Despite the severity you represent the warrior spirit that has made this military the greatest in the world. Wear it to remind those around you that courage is not just running towards bullets, it is coming back for more.

...sorry that is a little long. kinda did a bit of a rant, but I hope that helps someone else understand that their sacrifice wasn't for nothing...
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I agree with this. My wife is a War Veteran who never deployed. I am a War Veteran who did deploy (OIF). I am not, however, a Combat Veteran, since even though I was deployed to combat areas, I was not in combat itself.
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Cpl Peter Martuneac
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Whatever makes you comfortable. If you want to call yourself that, then you should because on the official side, you do indeed rate that title. But if it would make you feel phony, then keep doin what you're doin. My personal opinion: if you didn't visit the region in question (Gulf War, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc), it'd probably be best to just say "vet" without throwing the nation or region in front of it.
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LTC Paul Heinlein
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I think you are a Veteran of that era, the fact that you did not get sent there should not diminish your service to our nation, its just the luck of the draw.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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I was in OBC during Desert Storm when I got mine - go figure. SFC Chris Smith and SFC Mark Merino make excellent points on the topic - you were ready to go if called and the VA recognizes you.
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SFC Mark Merino
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I froze my butt off on an ammo pad for 4 months during Desert Shield/Storm and I didn't get a lousy t-shirt even :(
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
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You did, the Green one you didn't wash for 4 months. Or was it brown. They changed while I was in.
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Funny story. Korea 1996 we were preparing for a DMZ tour and back then you had to wear dress uniform on tours. Of course there was the preparatory inspection before the inspection of the inspection.
During the first inspection my PSG was checking awards and saw a new soldier wearing the NDSM. Unaware of the wear out date post Gulf War he looks back down the rank and asks me what the date was.
Not sure what came over me but apparently he didn't like the ". I'm not sure, I earned mine" response. Apparently he got his a few years back.
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@SFC May 7, 1975 - I am considered a Vietnam-ERA veteran. and I was in on 15 Aug 74.
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Maj Chris Nelson
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My personal thought is that you would be a Desert Storm ERA vet as you did not deploy to the region in conflict. Vietnam ERA vs. Vietnam Vet (went to Vietnam), OEF/OIF ERA vs. OEF/OIF Vet (went to respective theater). ERA sets a time stamp of service that is easily recognized. I have been deployed to all 3.... took incoming scuds in Deserts Storm (never saw direct fire action), Took incoming indirect fire in Iraq (again, never saw direct fire action), and took indirect fire in Afghanistan (again, never pulled trigger on my bang stick). I consider myself a combat vet of all 3 as I was in the theater of operations, HOWEVER, I also tell people that while I am a combat vet, I was never involved in direct combat.
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There are thousands like you that were graduating boot camp during the war, don't fret, you just meet the time requirements of being a serving soldier during a time of war. There are thousands of veterans that never got to Vietnam but they are still Vietnam vets on the books.
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Cpl Dennis F.
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Sorry, not in MY book!
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MSG John Wirts
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Viet Nam or Gulf war, the title Viet Nam Veteran is reserved for those who  were actually assigned "in country",My brother was a submariner, his boat cruised through Viet Nam waters submerged, technically he is a Viet Nam Veteran.  I was in the active army from Jun 1962- Jun 1965. I served in Germany after the official start up date for the Viet Nam War, so although I am not a Viet Nam Veteran I am a Viet Nam Era veteran.  The Same with the Gulf Wars, if you served in country You are a Gulf War Veteran, If you served during but not in theater you are a gulf War Era veteran.  That's much more difficult as the National Guard and Reserves are routinely mobilized these days.
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I stand corrected, I forgot the era part.
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MSG Senior Supply/Service Sergeant
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I served at Kadena AB, Okinawa in 64-65. Job was munitions Line Delivery. Received, assembled, stored and sometimes assisted in loading munitions on 18th TAC Ftr Wng F-105"s, which flew combat missions into Laos and Cambodia. Volunteered and was refused to go to VN. No boots on the ground, but neither did Navy guys on ships doing the same thing I did. So am I a VN vet or a VN era vet. I would trade all my ribbons and decoration to be eligible for the Vietnam Service Medal. The only things I have to show I served during the Vietnam war are the AF Outstanding unit ribbon (2), AF Longevity, National Service ribbon and expert shooters ribbon. The AF didn't even award me the Long Tour overseas ribbon (18months on the rock). Any help?
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You are a Gulf War era veteran as you served during that era. Those who who deployed and participated in the Desert Storm campaign are Gulf War veterans.
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PFC Zanie Young
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I know the feeling. I am a veteran who was in during that war who did not fight. I was in Korea at the time. I still get confused when I am called a "war veteran", just because I, too, have a NDSM. The VA actually calls us "Gulf War Era" veterans and that is just as confusing. The reason I got that medal in the first place is because I was Regular Army serving overseas at the time of war. I don't even buy the hats or shirts with that on it.
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MSG John Wirts
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That does not diminish your service, you were assigned outside the war zone, by the U.S. Army, you were where you were supposed to be. You are an Era veteran no shame there!
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PFC Zanie Young
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Thanks, Top!
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PFC Zanie Young
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You would be right, but there are other wars after Desert Shield/Desert Storm... In my case, I wasn't sure of my veteran status since I was in Korea throughout the war. I know that I carried a support MOS (72G, one of the last) and a Regular with the NDSM.
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SPC Walter Baucom
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I was deployed over there for 14 months and ended up in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Kuwait. And I believe there is a difference between someone who went, and someone who remained in garrison.
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