Posted on Jul 20, 2016
SSG Roger Ayscue
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We have all had to write an evaluation form on a subordinate. As leaders we have all had a subordinate that should go do something else. What NCOER/OER bullets have you used or seen that while being funny are just way too sad that they were actually true.
For example I used this once "Displays the military bearing and discipline expected of an IET Private"
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LTC Psychological Operations Officer
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As an adjutant I saw an OER on an infantry captain where the COL wrote "this officer has not commanded a company and does not seek to command. He displays none of the initiative or drive expected of a combat arms officer. Recommend retention in grade "

He never actually made it to the Major's board. The OER triggered a review and he was out in 90 days.

As far as funny/joke lines, one that went around for your last OER was "i can conceive of no national emergency so dire as to warrant this officer's return to active duty"
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PFC Elijah Rose
PFC Elijah Rose
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Why'd they hate him so much? Did he tell a joke a 1st Sergeant didn't like?
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Brad Miller
Brad Miller
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Owwww! But I've worked with a few people like t hat.
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LTC All Source Intelligence
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That is actually a pretty dispassionate and spot on assessment of somebody who won’t command. Truth is we don’t need him, and the OER reflected that.
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MSG Military Police
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In List 3 position the NCO might best fit I put "Civilian"
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Cpl Barry Evans
Cpl Barry Evans
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Sounds like the typical rating from the AHIC. Never appreciated the senior NCO's that thought they were the best the military had and anyone else was subpar unless they licked their boots.
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MSG Military Police
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Cpl Barry Evans - Interesting premise. How would you qualify this?
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Cpl Barry Evans
Cpl Barry Evans
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Simple ...ask a dumb question you get a dumb answer. One I remember well. Ask SNCO for two hours off early to drop a fellow Marine off at Airport. SNCO said isn’t your obligation to the Corps? Of course it was I enlisted didn’t I. Wasn’t necessary question. I responded with a dumber answer. “ My obligation is to get out of the Corps.” He was besides himself. Office hours 1 week restriction.

Went to see Navy Doctor was Honorably medically discharged, because of service related injury 2 days later. Obligation full-filled.
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MSgt J D McKee
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Gotta love it when your'e holding a full house and they think they want to call....
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Able to consistently conduct indoor/outdoor breathing under close supervision.
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CSM Geologist
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Sir I am really laughing hard.
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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...at own pace and distance.
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CW2 Louis Melendez
CW2 Louis Melendez
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Lmao, awesome
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We have all had a subordinate that needed to go. What are some Rating Bullets you have used that were both funny and sad but true?
LT Erik Frederick
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Not sure if it was just urban legend but a senior officer I knew claims to have written, "Ensign 'Smith' is going through his Naval career pulling on doors clearly marked 'Push.'"
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SSG Trevor S.
SSG Trevor S.
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Epic!
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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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Edited >1 y ago
o supported the Army Green initiative by personally supplying CO2 to vegetation in the Company Area

o possessed an unshakeable determination to do what he feels in right in the face of overwhelming evidence

o established a new company record in the post-APFT breathalyzer event

o personally took charge of the company extra duty details, completing all assigned tasks on a weekly basis

On the OER front, I had a Soldier who was formerly a CPT and came back in years later as a SGT to get retirement points in the USAR. He had an OER from the early '90's that read in it's entirety in the S/R section:
Captain G------ is dumb, but he is the best I've got.
Above Center of mass box check.
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SSG Trevor S.
SSG Trevor S.
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LOL @ CPT G
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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1SG (Join to see) that last bit was worth the price of admission alone.
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SGT Dan Keeler
SGT Dan Keeler
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I can honestly say my best APFT was when I was pushing a .24 BAC. Puked up what felt like half a gallon of soju right after the run.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
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I never got to put it on paper but once I was called as a "Character Witness" to a Marines Admin Discharge hearing in front of the Regimental Commander. I had a stack of counseling sheets form 3 months alone that was thicker than a fat baby's dick. This individual was constantly UA, lived like a pig and had 4 njps already. The Colonel looked through one or two of the sheets than asked me if I thought the Marine Could be salvaged. I looked at the Colonel then looked at the Marine and said " Sir, this Private in nothing more than a hairy turd hanging out the Marine Corp's ass, and we need to pinch him off".
I thought the Sgt Major was going to have a Stroke, but the Colonel just looked up and said "Ok Gunny, thanks foir your input" He sent me and the Platoon Commander out without asking anything else. The kid was ad-sepped with an OTH within a few weeks.
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CW5 Regimental Chief Warrant Officer
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I love honesty and directness. (Even when it points out that I can be an ass sometimes)
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CW2 Rob Janke
CW2 Rob Janke
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Outstanding response! Hats off to you.
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SGT Charles Bartell
SGT Charles Bartell
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Some times you can not reword something, So you just have to say it like it is.
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SFC Michael Krogmann
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Priceless
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SGM Erik Marquez
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"Sets low standards and often fails to meet them"
"No potential for potential to lead SM in combat or garrison"
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Capt Retired
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My favorite was on a LT's OER.

"Lt ______ is a fast learner. He never makes the same mistake twice. But, it seems he is trying to make them all once."
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SFC Don Vance
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That's hilarious!
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1LT Medical-Surgical Nurse
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Lol damn
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SFC David McMahon
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Listed in the "top 3 positions"

Squad member

Yeah...had to go see 1SG about that one....

Ha ha ha ha ha ha
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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M22 Alarm
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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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LTC Jason Mackay - Officer with warrants (not Warrant Officer)
Had one of those a few years back.
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SFC Opsnco
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I put out a civilian (won't give him the credit of calling him a Soldier) a few years back. He was convicted of: 1) theft of government property, 2) theft of personal property, 3) disrespect to a Non-Commissioned Officer and 4) solicitation of narcotics. All on his first NCOER. I share this not to make fun of this guy, but so other NCOs can use these bullets with their more challenging NCOERs. This was by far the hardest NCOER I ever wrote.

PART IV. a. ARMY VALUES
o failed to uphold the Army standards of honor and integrity
o demonstrated serious lack of integrity and poor judgement without consideration of results
o disciplined for disrespect and solicitation of narcotics
PART IV. b. COMPETENCE
o lacked sound judgement in personal decision making
o performed duties in a timely manner with supervision
o his failure to follow orders led to loss of computer access; unable to efficiently perform duties of a NCO in a medical center
PART IV. d. LEADERSHIP
o disciplined for larceny
o failed to live up to the Creed of the Non-Commissioned Officer
o lacked the ability to comprehend operational mission goals and act appropriately in the absence of orders
PART V. b.
Squad Member
Mail Room Worker
Gym Worker
PART V. e.
o do not promote or retain at this time; there is no real world mission that warrants the retention of this Soldier
o current performance is below expected levels; did not positively distinguish himself from his peers
o has limited potential in military career
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PFC Elijah Rose
PFC Elijah Rose
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I got news for you, depending on the unit theft is routine. And if we chaptered every soldier that ever did recreational drugs then the military would be a whole lot smaller. Something tells me the only thing that marks this guy out is that he didn't have friends with high pt scores. I want you ask yourself what really separates you from that guy, besides popularity.
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LCDR Naval Aviator
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PFC Elijah Rose everything, hopefully.
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PFC Elijah Rose
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LCDR (Join to see) I was being rhetorical, he knows as well as I do there's something he won't admit to.
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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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LCDR (Join to see) - I believe I have discovered what PFC Rose's beef with chapters is. I was trying to figure it out on another thread, but now the flag I was looking for has emerged.
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MSG Special Forces Senior Sergeant
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She takes her foot out of her mouth only to replace it with the other one.
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PFC Elijah Rose
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That might be funny as a joke, but that kind of slander is actually quite rampant.
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Brad Miller
Brad Miller
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PFC Elijah Rose - It's not slander if it's true. I've worked with people like that.
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SGT David T.
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"This NCO has met his maximum potential. Do not promote. Do not retain." I proudly display this in a frame since it was mine and I wrote just prior to ETS.
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Cpl Zach Wellborn
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He's a jarhead for sure but the jars empty.
He can put on the uniform which in it's self is impressive.
He's great at PT if PT consisted of running 5 ft
Leadership ability of a dying cat
Takes orders like a retard chasing bubbles
Can't counsel said Marine, he's crossed eyed and I lose my bearing.
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SGT Dan Keeler
SGT Dan Keeler
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Woohoo, a marine?

Sorry, guys, that was too easy....
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PO1 Paul D.
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Submitted on an junior PO2 who treated those who reported to her like children. Almost made it to her record, the entire chain of command agreed. The Commanding Officer changed it after much thought.
"* Does not work well or play well with others."
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CMSgt Mike Esser
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Airman is extremely well suited for the civilian sector, recommend transfer to such with due haste.
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Lt Col Paul Maxwell
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'Overwhelmingly meets minimum standards'.
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PFC Elijah Rose
PFC Elijah Rose
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That is clearly being deliberately unfair, because it technically means that he meets all standards while also saying that he does a crummy job.
And people think bullying and favoritism aren't an issue in the military.......
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Lt Col Paul Maxwell
Lt Col Paul Maxwell
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Actually PFC Rose, it was being deliberately FAIR. Especially to the others in the unit, who were not just meeting minimum standards, but growing, exceeding standards, achieving more. It stated they met standard, but only just. If you haven’t, in your many years of service, yet met someone in your life/unit/work team yet that only barely (but consistently) made minimum effort to just cross the line... you will. And you have either helped carry them, or....
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SPC Douglas Thompson
SPC Douglas Thompson
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PFC Elijah Rose - Reading through all your comments throughout this thread, I'm damn glad I never had to serve alongside you. I get the sense that you have been, or will be, subject to some version of one of these eval comments at some time in your military "career", and it wasn't you who displayed deficiencies, but your superiors who had unrealistic expectations regarding standards and you meeting them.
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MSgt David Lange
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In the late 1980's there was a list going around which was compiled by some of the junior Marines who reviewed fitness reports for sergeants and above. I wish I could find that list, but here are a few I do remember:

-Can juggle cotton balls in a hurricane.
-Marches to the beat of a different drummer and fortunate we could not find that drummer.
-I would rather have a vacancy in my unit rather than have this individual on my rolls.
-I have known the Gunnery Sergeant for years. He fat then and he is still fat now.
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MCPO Chuck Feeney
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Chief Neverdull proves that no one is totally useless, as he can be used a bad example of a Chief Petty Officer. (Skipper made me change it)
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SSG Kyle Stromgren
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Has a whole 6pack but missing the plastic thingy that holds it together
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SSG Trevor S.
SSG Trevor S.
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LOL
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SSG Trevor S.
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I didn't use any of these. I was really tempted though:

1 of 3 recommended future positions : Front Leaning Rest
Marginally achieved autonomous breathing
Able to tell left from right 80% of the time
Considered an excellent candidate for post-military Vo-Tech Training
Able to recite 100% of the dialogue from recent movie titles, able to recite 75% of the National Anthem
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