Posted on Jan 25, 2015
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I wear a ring on the pointer finger of my left hand. It's sterling silver and isn't even as big as a class ring. However, a SSG from my unit is constantly telling me to take it off because it is not a wedding ring. I tell him AR 670-1 states in section Jewlery that a soldier my wear a total of 2 rings; 1 on each hand, and a wedding band set is considered 1. It also states that rings must be conservative in taste and not extreme. Nowhere in the Regs does it say a soldier can only wear wedding rings. My ring meets all requirements but he still yells everytime he sees it. How can I educate him more or resolve the situation without taking off my ring and without getting chewed out?
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan
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Pick you battles bro...even if you are 'proven correct', all you have managed to do is put yourself in this NCO's sights. Believe me, eventually, he will find something legit that you are slippin' on and you will find yourself on the carpet.
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We as NCO's we are there for the soldiers period. When i was a lower enlisted anytime i had an NCO approach me and tells me what i do i would do it. If I had a question or wondered why i was being corrected i asked that NCO respectuflly to explain to me. Likewise we learn good or bad from each other regarless of the situation. (I feel like we create friction for no reason where we could solve it right away through effecitve communication)
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SPC Infantryman
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Wear it.
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SSgt Age Journeyman
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If he outranks you just listen. It is a lawful order. Do you question every little thing asked of you if it's just a little thing like a mustache or ring? Just listen and leave it. And you should never try to "educate" a superior. You will lose over something this minor.
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SSgt Age Journeyman
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If he outranks you just listen. It is a lawful order. Do you question every little thing asked of you if it's just a little thing like a mustache or ring? Just listen and leave it.
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SPC Charles Batchelor
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Talk to your COC about it, it's harrassment and tge NCO is nit following regs.
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MSgt Edward Hayes
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All orders are considered valid and must be complied with until the member can prove the order is invalid. An exception would an order that is illegal. You can
not be ordered commit a crime or commit murder or cause unwarranted harm to members or civilians. Let us face it if it is a matter of a ring or a hair cut, follow the order and then complain through channels.
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SFC Greg Bruorton
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I had really wanted a diamond, as in First Sergeant recognition, but my soon-to-be wife guided me to a local jewelry store in Fayetteville for my wedding ring having three diamonds. Once, during a night jump while in the 82nd, the jumpmaster yelled out, "All right . . ., who's got the diamond ring on?"

As it turned out, my ring was emitting sparklies all across the ceiling of the C-130 so I quickly turned the ring around to hide the outburst of night visibility. Lessons learned.
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Maj John Bell
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Ever see a finger de-gloved by a ring. I have. Neither I, nor my wife wear rings. I don't allow anyone to keep them on if they want to touch my horses and goats, even over the fence. I wouldn't wear one around anything that has energized moving parts, or weighs more than 15lbs and could catch the ring. They are safety hazards. I'll spare you the image if you don't want to see it, but if you need to, do a google image search.

I'd find the SSG and thank him if I was you.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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Pal, pick your battles. Understand that you may be entirely correct, and I am not going to deny the fact that you may be entirely correct, but is it something that is really worth possibly tarnishing the working relationship that you must have with that NCO? I really don't think so. Take it from a guy that has conducted my share of little battles against leadership, both at the lowest level and throughout the higher echelons, and it really is not worth it, bud. Save that fight ticket for something that really matters. If it is just a random piece of jewelry that you just wear because you want to and has no real significance passed that, what are you really missing out on by not wearing it during duty hours in uniform? You can try throwing regulations in the face of this leader, maybe you win and maybe you lose; maybe he drops the "add to but not take away" line that can be pulled out whenever it suits someone, you never know. I'm just thinking that your leader may have a reason for this that hasn't been expressed. Regardless of the why, just think about the importance of this fight and the possible repercussions of jumping into a regulation battle with someone who, presumably, has far more knowledge and experience than you possess. Just think about it.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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I don't know where Your SSgt gets His ideas, You can certainly wear the rings and not everyone is married. One ring per hand is reasonable and allowed. , I wore a wedding ring on My left hand and a college Class ring on the right. The only exception for safety reasons is working around machinery where the ring could be snagged and perhaps end up with an injury to Your person but that only applies while actually working at the time with the machines. Colonel Smallfield had some suggestions that a very valid, read His posting that He made here.
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James Adair
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seem like your CO is lacking in knowledge of army regs but, just keep in compliance pending your MOS or whatever the army calls specialty's
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SSG Platoon Sergeant
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I'm sure if it were a Masonic or West Point ring this would be a non issue
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SSG Platoon Sergeant
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I'm sure if it was a Masonic or West Point ring this would be a non issue
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670-1 can be more restrictive. Not less. The reg allows you to wear a ring on each hand. That DOES NOT mean that the leadership is required to allow it. This is a large problem for young troops. They are under the mistaken impression that the reg dictates what their rights are and they can do whatever they want as long as it fits within the regs. That is NOT the case. Leadership can give a lawful order and require all to wear only one ring or even no rings. NOW, if leadership is only limiting YOU to one ring then you have an issue of discrimination. An example of this is basic training. The reg gives the standard for haircuts, however we all know that anything but a buzz is unacceptable regardless of what the reg says. Remember, it can be more restrictive not less. Commanders/Leaderships discretion. If I had a platoon wide standard of no rings (because they are dangerous A.F.) and you came at me with the reg about ring wear, I would commend you on your knowledge and then make you remove your ring after some remedial PT for failing to follow a lawful order.
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While you are technically correct, MSG(P) (Join to see) , because SSG(P) (Join to see) is an engineer, if one works in an office, the issue becomes one of personal whim rather than real concern, and that's not what leadership is about.
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If I have some soldiers in the same platoon working in the field and some in the HQ then in fairness I would restrict ring wear across the board. If some cannot do it then by uniformity, no one can. The reg doesn't specify that I must have a reason for doing so. It's a leadership prerogative. Do I believe that leadership should make people miserable just to be miserable? No of course not. I'm simply pointing out that just because the reg allows a behavior that does not mean soldiers are guaranteed that behavior.
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TSgt Denise Moody
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If the ring doesn't constitute a safety issue, and you'll have to check with your SOP or consider whether you work around anything that a ring can catch on and rip your finger off, then show the SSG the appropriate reg. Don't just tell him, because you have said you've already mentioned the reg...show it to him. I had a similar problem oh so many years ago with the length of my finger nails. AFR 35-10 didn't mention length of nails, only color of polish :) So the TSG had to back down when I sent him to the regs.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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Is it really that important to wear it on duty? Wear it on your time and don't give him a reason to light you up whether it's regs or not, doesn't make sense to me, and I'd pick my fights better.
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SPC John Decker
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Report him up the chain of command.
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SGT Alicia Brenneis
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I am not usually an advocate for "why" questions but in this case try asking him why he doesn't want you to wear it when regs say you can. Obviously approach the conversation with calm respect. He may have valid reasons like safety. Pick your battles. If you feel the need to stand firm then do so but remember there could be consequences or blow back later.
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CW3 Craig Linghor
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You should wear it on your thumb instead...lol. Happy I don't have to deal with stupidity anymore. Funny though.
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