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SFC Mark Merino
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They are called medical practitioners, not God. In no way am I trying to take away from our dedicated, hard-working providers. Many times, even the physician's hands are tied by the administrators who limit their options. Limited facilities, budget constraints, SOP's, epic caseloads, deployments, and over a decade of war on 2 fronts. Do you have any horror stories or close calls that are worth sharing (without pointing fingers)?

I walked around with a severely damaged C3/4 vertebra for 15 months before the Army rotated the MRI image and found it. I couldn't move my neck, and if I sneezed or coughed I thought I was going to die. Once they found the problem I was in surgery within 24 hours. I still have nerve damage to both arms. Sometimes a second opinion can save your life.
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PO2 Kimberly Miller
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Three times it happened to me. One of them being the cause of my medical discharge because it went on for 2 years with multiple HMC's seeing me.

First time, I was shipboard and got very ill. The doc gave me a prescription of Erythromycin, but wrote the wrong dosage - this was back in the day before the computers spit out the proper information, and they referred to a book for dosages. Basically, he doubled my dosage. I was barely 100lbs and by that first night, I thought I was literally going to die, the pressure in my chest had me barely breathing and crying at the same time from the intense pain. My AOIC stepped in and got involved, took me down to medical, found out the problem and told the doc he had to watch me overnight to make sure I didn't OD. The Doc to cover his rear put in my medical record I was allergic to the drug. That followed me for years till I got pink eye one year and the topical ointment they give for that is Erythromycin. I explained what had happened shipboard, the doc took a gamble and prescribed it, then later crossed it off of my record.

Second time I injured my foot. I was an avid runner. Was in ASF training and somehow did something where my foot stung initially and the pain receded. Thinking nothing was wrong I maintained running. Over the course of a couple of weeks the ball of my foot began to feel very bruised. Went to medical - they advised it was just a stressed tendon or muscle, possibly just a bruise from stepping on a rock while running. Sent me on my way. About a month later, I was back at medical with the same issue. They finally did an xray, found nothing. Told me nothing was wrong to lay off the running for a bit. PRT came around, I finished the run and then could barely stand for the pain and went back to medical. They again said nothing was wrong, that I was just trying to get out of the PRT. See the pattern here? This went on for TWO years. A back and forth. After that PRT they put me LIMDU for small stretches of times, hoping the issue would resolve itself. In Rota, Spain the doc there saw the problem and told me I had an extra bone in my foot. It was not an extra bone, it was my bone split in two pieces. For two years I kept going in requesting to be sent to a Podiatrist or Orthopedic Surgeon and they all thought they knew best and refused to send me to them. One HMC told me he was going to send me to Psychiatry because it was all in my head. It took a LT Reservist serving his two weeks duty to review my record and ask why in two years no one had sent me to a Specialist. He was livid. That awesome man finally sent me to a Podiatrist and with an Army base no less, since he said they care more about the feet than the Navy apparently did. In 5 minutes the Podiatrist diagnosed the problem. I had caused a minor fracture when I initially injured my foot. The running compounded the issue and split the bone. After an MRI, it was determined the bone was dead, since it was left untreated for 2 years. Plus, since I was LIMDU for 2 years - automatic medical discharge. I had the bone removed by the Navy though just prior to my discharge. It was the first time in 2 years that I did not limp. Got 10% and told me I was lucky to get that. 2 years with my gait thrown off messed up my knee and back too. I can no longer run. That one small bone being removed misaligned all the others. Even with custom orthodic inserts, running is too much and I will get multiple fractures in the other bones within my foot. I have tried many times, always ending up in a walking boot. haha Can't say I haven't tried.

The third one was in the middle of the second. I was getting my last in the series for the Anthrax vaccine. Was asked if I were pregnant. I was always told I could never have children so I automatically answered no. I was 2 wks pregnant. Carried my son full term. Was terrified about what that vaccine was going to do to him.

I am not all that willing to trust a doctor and they don't understand why. lol.
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SFC Mark Merino
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I loved running as well. Those days are long gone for me. I am grateful for the mobility I have.
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
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i wil say this.. .taking good from bad is the only way I want to try to live. I do a lot of hot room yoga now these days. The benefits of flexibility and calmness far outweigh what running a few miles ever got me. the body is more balanced. Muscles are fuller. I would recommend active daily athletic yoga stretching daily as often as you find you need it. For example just learn to do that stretch where you pull your foot to your butt and rotate your hip and start to learn to balance on that leg and bend forward in a balanced state and rotate and come back up without loosing balance and falling over. It is hard. But when you start mastering it you develop strength, agility, flexibility, core strength, calmness, breathing, relaxation and more. Then when you are done with that just bend forward and relax legs straight forward bends, relax, stretching hamstrings, and eventually your whole legs, and butt, where eventually you will have your palms on the ground. That is just a sample of balanced flexibility routines that will tire you and strengthen you and calm you at the same time.
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PO2 Kimberly Miller
PO2 Kimberly Miller
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I am actually trying to get into a mix of Yoga/Pilates routine. Only I am not so balanced yet. I'll get there in time. I can stand on one leg with the other behind as you described, but not bending forward and several of the other poses I am very bad at. I do love planks though!
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
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It makes going to the gym for me trying this stuff out. Im not rigid with myself and don't count how long I do certain things. I try to listen to my body and where it is tight and work from there. Everyday is different. As long as I am consistent going nearly daily that is the most important. That keeps me fresh and going forward then letting the injuries take over. I usually don't do things that don't have results in the gym. So far in my whole life this athletic yoga stretching thing mixed with a hot sauna is my best mix so far. Balancing stretching flexibility indeed create strength balance and calmness. Just throwing weights around is very limiting and infact your body become imbalanced as most people 99.99 percent focus on body part and forget others like big muscle groups, you don't see in the mirror duh makes sense) in the lower back and butt and hamstrings
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My wife missed a combat deployment (which cost her at least 1 promotion) because of a female doc at BMC Ft Worth. She was on multiple meds for over a year that are not to be talen for more than 3 months.She was also on meds that were dangerous to be used in combination. That doc finally got replaced by a new Ensign. He sent my wife to a chiropracter, and 2 months later she was back in good shape.
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SFC Mark Merino
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Thank God.
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I had constant knee pain in 2008 and the PA we had read the MRI and told me I was just getting old. In 2009 when I was RELADing from T-10, the new PA we got put me on MEDICAL Hold for multiple meniscus tears. She was reading the same old 2008 MRI. She ordered a new one and it showed that I now had floaters, (broken off pieces).
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PO1 Chris Crawley preach it from the mountain tops brother...I really wish the USA would commission chiros...my letters fall on deaf ears.
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PO1 Chris Crawley
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SSGT, we had chiros at Naval Hospital Jacksonville for most of my tour at NAS JAX, but they got rid of them in 2006.
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SGT Shaul Funt
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Every day....they think I'm normal
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SFC Mark Merino
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They just need to poll the peanut gallery. We'll set them straight, Shaul.
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PO2 Jonathan Scharff
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Over 30 years ago I was simply leaning over my rack attempting to open a window on Governors Island, NY and the old window pain broke and my whole palm went through it. Almost severed my left hand. Went to the ER and a corpsman sewed it up. Saw an MD for about 10 seconds and he said all was fine. About a month later as the bandages were being removed I noticed that I couldn't move my fingers the way I used to be able to. Attempted to get further diagnosis to no avail. Actually took leave and drove to Walter Reed Medical Center and saw an Army Lt. Col who was a hand surgeon. He told me there wasn't much he could do at that point and if the Coast Guard wanted your hand fixed they should have sent you down here a month ago! Apparently there are multiple tendons in the hand and I managed to cut the ones that control individual finger movement.

Did all of ET A School with one hand and graduated first in my class. The instructors told me that they would forever use me as an example whenever anyone was complaining about physical limitations..."You know we had a guy graduate first in his class with one hand!" lol So I have that going for me.

Was offered disability but I turned it down. I manage just fine.
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Yes, just prior to retiring. At that point I was deemed rational and sane then RallyPoint came along and undid my whole persona :-) Now that LTC (Join to see) has met me face to face he can attest to my craziness! It's not quite Klinger in a dress section 8 stuff, but close.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca thank you for not showing up in a dress today ;-)
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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You mean class As. The collateral damage from the buttons flying off would have been f-ugly.
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
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Crazzayness?? im interested to know a bit more whats going on in here?
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"You're just dehydrated, drink more water" - ER doc.
A week later I had back surgery...
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LT Jessica Kellogg
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That's pretty impressive.
My MRIs are far from pretty, but I was lucky enough to only have one disc fully ruptured.
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Obviously the ruptured disc allowed all of your hydrates to leak out. Geez... ;)
PO3 Aaron Hassay
PO3 Aaron Hassay
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SFC MERINO or anyone... Can they tell through MRI that a disk has ruptured like yours and created biological shrapnel? Sorry for what you have going on there ENS Jessica K. Did you have a specific accident that created this? I hope that is not to noisy to ask. How is the rehab going?
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LT Jessica Kellogg
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I would assume they can see biological shrapnel on an mri; it should show up like the other disc material.
I'm back to full duty. There are some movements I avoid as a precaution, but that's pretty much it.
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Medical errors are the 3rd leading cause of death in the United States...and guess who is signing off on the other two?
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I hear that MSG Brad Sand!
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MSgt Roger Lalik
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Yepper guys!
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SFC Mark Merino My brother retired from the Army as a Medic and because of the jolting around in heavy equipment (jeeps, tanks, etc) he suffered from a congenital condition that nearly cost him his life. They had to remove a part of his skull to relieve the pressure. Now he has full medical retirement and disability rated at 100%.
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SFC Mark Merino
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Being on that garbage for that long plays havoc on our liver and onions! I get checked every 6 months since I've been on morphine, demerol, percocet, etc...I hope he gets blood drawn SSgt (Join to see) Has anyone at the VA discussed any alternatives?That sounds like hell!
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Couldnt agree more with SFC Mark Merino, the long term use of narcotics is horrible on the body, and becomes very habit forming. Has he been evaluated by a DO? They are trained in dry needle therapy, that stuff is amazing. Alternative practice has shown very promising results in cases like this. You should check it out SSgt Larry Olson.
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SSgt Gregory Guina
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PO1 (Join to see) Dry needling is pretty good I have to admit. I have been getting it done for the past month and a half or so and it has helped with my pain for sure.
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SFC Mark Merino
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I'm clueless. Dry needling?
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My story is not as severe as yours, however I found myself in the same situation. I have spent years with lower back pain and was taking pills and seeing a chiro to ease the pain. After years of seeing my PCM, it took me complaining about my physical therapist just to get referred to ortho. The first visit with my ortho diagnosed me with facet syndrome (arthritis) in my lower back in several vertebrate. I now have pain management for the rest of my life as this cannot be fixed. I literally spent about 16 months on temporary profiles because they couldn't find anything wrong, until the ortho got involved. I have missed out on NCOES schools and other various professional development schools on numerous occasions because of it (bouncing around from temp to temp profiles). I have still yet to be seen for constant knee pain and serious headaches about 8x a month. I annotated those same issues on my PHA last year, and I was told I had to reschedule for an appointment like 1-2 months later because my blood pressure was a little higher during the PHA appointment and that took priority.

I even remember a time about 8 years ago when I got sudden severe abdominal pain and it literally hurt to breathe. I got X-rays and a mammogram done and they couldn't find anything wrong. When they finally got done the doc told me that he didn't know what was wrong and just wrote "abdominal wall strain" on my records. The pain was still present for about 3 weeks afterwards.
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SFC Mark Merino
SFC Mark Merino
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1SG (Join to see) Did your parachute fail to open at 700ft? Sounds like your body had a severe trauma! Make copies of everything! I might be a conspiracy theorist, but I swear that the worst medical mishaps disappeared out of my records......but big daddy made copies!
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SFC Mark Merino
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You are very wise 1SG (Join to see) ! It isn't in your mind either. When I got back from Iraq in early 2004 I went to the GI clinic with severe bowel problems and on the examination table, upon "spreading the cheeks" blood was everywhere. (Doc)"How long has it been like this???".......(Me)"8 months."......(Doc) "At least they sent you back to get care".......(Me)" All they did was draw my blood every Friday to make sure I wasn't anemic. We all just got home this week"........(Doc) "That's criminal! You could have died! You need surgery immediately. You have a perforated colon! How you didn't develop sepsis is beyond me!" 72 hours later I get a colon stapling to repair the 6 months MRE/not enough water gut damage. That recovery was the 10/10 scale. I had 6 follow on surgical procedures over the net 4 years. Once they passed that "no more carrying medical/dental records when you PCS rule" two years of surgery disappeared from my records. The VA was like "What are all these scars? There is no record of it." So forget about conspiracy theory. GET COPIES and TRUST NONE!!!
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I heard of one PA that failed to reconcile all the medications one of her patients was on before adding more. The patient was on some medication for post traumatic stress. Long story short, the patient died from a fatal drug interaction.

Another story involved a medic that saw a patient for persistent foot pain. She wrote him off as having a sprained ankle and sent him on his merry way with some ibuprofen. The patient went to the ER later that day and was found to have a fracture on his metatarsal. I chalk that one up to a poor initial physical exam.

The problem I've seen is in the BCT's. You're unit is assigned one PA and he or she becomes the choke point for follow on care. If that provider doesn't think you need to see a specialist, it becomes a huge road block. This is a problem that some times happens, not the rule.

The patient is then left to find some other PA (usually another with in the same BCT) who will make time on their schedule to see them and hopefully agree to refer to a specialist.

Most soldiers usually run to the ER when they get an answer that is less than satisfactory. The ER providers aren't primary care managers (PCM) for that soldier. The best they can do is manage the symptoms and refer back to that PA. The ER doc (assuming it's an MD. Some posts have PA or MD students working the ER under supervision) can add their two cents to the patient's electronic record, but it is still up to the PCM.

There are good doctors in the Army medical system. The toughest part of it is that the Army can't often compete with the private sector to retain the most talented.
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