Posted on Dec 19, 2015
What are the reasons that Service Members with PTSD, TBI, or Severely Disabled will not try new services to get help?
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What are the reasons that Service Members with PTSD, TBI, or Severely Disabled will not try new services to get help?
I have a number of questions within this post that I would like to get everyone's input on from a professional standpoint. I also have some very important information for veterans and service members that need help and want to keep it anonymous!
As you know I lost a Father-in-Law (Vietnam Veteran diagnoised with PTSD) to Suicide on Tuesday, 8 December 2015 and he was buried on 16 December 2015 in Killeen, TX with full military honors! It is importand to me and the RallyPoint Members that are working with me and Virtual World Solutions to help stop this waive of suicides due to PTSD, TBI, and many other factors affecting our service members (including MST).
Please check the survey box - need the input please!
RP Memebers there are so many new services out there today for individuals that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, and that are Severely Disabled - how do we get them to feel comfortable about any one service or methodology?
Here is a nice evening program every Sunday called: "Warrior for Life" (WFL) Group Suport. This is now a part of Victory for Veterans Foundation. We stay connected (7) days a week on SKYPE with our group members. We welcome Veterans, Active Duty Service Members, Military Family Members, and Civilians that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, MST, and other disabilities to join us on Sunday evenings.
Please connect with me first on SKYPE at: mikel.burroughs
Have a short BIO about yourself ready to go and then I'll add you to the group with a Welcoming Message. You can get to know others via text first and then join us on Sunday evenings. If you want to join the Video Conference just to observe, you can turn off video and audio and just observe until you feel comfortable with the group. All of our members are members of RallyPoint and we've been meeting now going on two (2) years now.
We have members from all over the world and United States, so come join us for this one hour of group support each week.
Here is how you can join this Sunday to just listen in if you want to or any Sunday in the future:
Warrior for Life Group Support Sunday night at 8:00 PM EST (7:00 PM CST) 6:00 PM MST & 5:00 PM PST!
COL (R) Mikel Burroughs is inviting you to a RingCentral meeting.
Join from PC, Mac, iOS or Android: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/j/ [login to see]
Or iPhone one-tap:
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Or Telephone:
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Meeting ID: [login to see]
International numbers available: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/teleconference
SGT Michael Thorin has provided some directions for loading Ring Central.
https://youtu.be/M8D_8iSNQ7k
I have a number of questions within this post that I would like to get everyone's input on from a professional standpoint. I also have some very important information for veterans and service members that need help and want to keep it anonymous!
As you know I lost a Father-in-Law (Vietnam Veteran diagnoised with PTSD) to Suicide on Tuesday, 8 December 2015 and he was buried on 16 December 2015 in Killeen, TX with full military honors! It is importand to me and the RallyPoint Members that are working with me and Virtual World Solutions to help stop this waive of suicides due to PTSD, TBI, and many other factors affecting our service members (including MST).
Please check the survey box - need the input please!
RP Memebers there are so many new services out there today for individuals that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, and that are Severely Disabled - how do we get them to feel comfortable about any one service or methodology?
Here is a nice evening program every Sunday called: "Warrior for Life" (WFL) Group Suport. This is now a part of Victory for Veterans Foundation. We stay connected (7) days a week on SKYPE with our group members. We welcome Veterans, Active Duty Service Members, Military Family Members, and Civilians that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, MST, and other disabilities to join us on Sunday evenings.
Please connect with me first on SKYPE at: mikel.burroughs
Have a short BIO about yourself ready to go and then I'll add you to the group with a Welcoming Message. You can get to know others via text first and then join us on Sunday evenings. If you want to join the Video Conference just to observe, you can turn off video and audio and just observe until you feel comfortable with the group. All of our members are members of RallyPoint and we've been meeting now going on two (2) years now.
We have members from all over the world and United States, so come join us for this one hour of group support each week.
Here is how you can join this Sunday to just listen in if you want to or any Sunday in the future:
Warrior for Life Group Support Sunday night at 8:00 PM EST (7:00 PM CST) 6:00 PM MST & 5:00 PM PST!
COL (R) Mikel Burroughs is inviting you to a RingCentral meeting.
Join from PC, Mac, iOS or Android: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/j/ [login to see]
Or iPhone one-tap:
+ [login to see] ,, [login to see] #
Or Telephone:
Dial: + [login to see]
Meeting ID: [login to see]
International numbers available: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/teleconference
SGT Michael Thorin has provided some directions for loading Ring Central.
https://youtu.be/M8D_8iSNQ7k
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Stigma and very real concerns that the seeking of treatment or help will be used against them, if not today then tomorrow.
Second to that is the perception of no real help available though the VA..just the offer of group therapy and drugs.
Second to that is the perception of no real help available though the VA..just the offer of group therapy and drugs.
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First of all, my sympathies on the loss of your father in law, COL Mikel J. Burroughs. I know how hard it must be for you and your family. It wasn't long after I left Fort Hood in 1973, drinking heavily since Vietnam that while I wasn't trying to kill myself, rather seeking help, what I did could have very well ended my life.
It wasn't until forty years later that I was diagnosed with PTSD. What I have found in using the VA is that all they want to do is medicate you so I try and avoid any treatment. I self medicated for years and didn't need any more drugs.
It wasn't until forty years later that I was diagnosed with PTSD. What I have found in using the VA is that all they want to do is medicate you so I try and avoid any treatment. I self medicated for years and didn't need any more drugs.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SFC William Farrell Thank you for the kind words and thanks for sharing your story and insight!
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As for seeking other services help, The VA services all branches or am I missing the point of the question Mike.?
The history of the VA accepting the fact that " War is Hell " reaches as far back as the realization that the terminology needed to be integrated. Combat fatigue ( awww he's just tired, let him rest a while and everything will be ok ) Invisible War Wounds. ( Since they were invisible , it was easier to forget them out of " sight unseen". Here's the most ludicrous tag ever applied, Baby Killers. That was the last straw for me to give the civilian world the benefit of the doubt. It wasn't doubt, they simply did not know what they were talking about. I have had to control the Basic Training impulse ( to kill the enemy) and anyone calling me a baby killer and spitting in my face became the enemy for a split second until what little control I had left took over.
The ease in which the general civilian public can apply the next name to combat vets, War Hawk or (anyone who volunteered to do what should be done to eliminate dictators and monstrous regimes).
A crippled " train of thought " exhibited by the " tune in, turn on, and tune out " crowd, only illustrated the shallowness of the the anti-war movement and did little to help. For some reason, they couldn't get it thru their "smoke clouded" heads, that civil up-right man cannot, in good conscience, stand by while " mans inhumanity to man " runs rampant. To them the " war is hell " was the fault of the soldiers. I've actually had people ask me if I enjoyed war?
The war we have to fight now will take all of us, coming together, talking, understanding and leaning on one another to stop this suicide. Here's a start. Because you are my brother, know that the love that our fellowman enjoys, is good, but not as good as someone who understands what is happening to us. Be strong, Believe, and never forget your brothers.
The history of the VA accepting the fact that " War is Hell " reaches as far back as the realization that the terminology needed to be integrated. Combat fatigue ( awww he's just tired, let him rest a while and everything will be ok ) Invisible War Wounds. ( Since they were invisible , it was easier to forget them out of " sight unseen". Here's the most ludicrous tag ever applied, Baby Killers. That was the last straw for me to give the civilian world the benefit of the doubt. It wasn't doubt, they simply did not know what they were talking about. I have had to control the Basic Training impulse ( to kill the enemy) and anyone calling me a baby killer and spitting in my face became the enemy for a split second until what little control I had left took over.
The ease in which the general civilian public can apply the next name to combat vets, War Hawk or (anyone who volunteered to do what should be done to eliminate dictators and monstrous regimes).
A crippled " train of thought " exhibited by the " tune in, turn on, and tune out " crowd, only illustrated the shallowness of the the anti-war movement and did little to help. For some reason, they couldn't get it thru their "smoke clouded" heads, that civil up-right man cannot, in good conscience, stand by while " mans inhumanity to man " runs rampant. To them the " war is hell " was the fault of the soldiers. I've actually had people ask me if I enjoyed war?
The war we have to fight now will take all of us, coming together, talking, understanding and leaning on one another to stop this suicide. Here's a start. Because you are my brother, know that the love that our fellowman enjoys, is good, but not as good as someone who understands what is happening to us. Be strong, Believe, and never forget your brothers.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
PO1 (Join to see) Your not missing the point - the issue isn't the VA, the question is why are some veterans or active duty service members afraid or concerned about trying other methods outside the VA's program. Some Veterans don't like the methodology that the VA utilizes and AD Personnel are afraid of the stigma that is placed on them if they are still serving and possible loss of their security clearance, etc. It was a question to bring up some of the issues that they are facing personally and get them introduced to Sponsor a Vet Life as well. Hope that helps - thanks for responding!
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I tried everything the Military and VA had to offer. It just don't work. Too painful. So I developed my own treatment I call, I vent I keep moving. I stop moving I'm not doing well. Job hunting I go around moving around a lot I don't know where I'm going or doing but I suit up grab a bunch of resumes and just go. In the service I kept busy. I go to my appointments call and vent keep going. Flashbacks come and go I have to keep going.
Saturated with pills, therapy treatments and enough knowledge of psychological treatment for PTSD I could be a counselor. But I wont. Not that kind of guy. Mainly after trusting so long and. O results I don't trust any "new" and "proven" method even Canalis rationalizing
Saturated with pills, therapy treatments and enough knowledge of psychological treatment for PTSD I could be a counselor. But I wont. Not that kind of guy. Mainly after trusting so long and. O results I don't trust any "new" and "proven" method even Canalis rationalizing
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TSgt Keith Wright
Bob, I met a charleton at Travis AFB, his name is Steve Debover, we traveled to Washington DC and we were infront of the Whitehouse when he asked me to be part of his organization. He explained that he pays a KKK Wizard Malcom Mcfarlane 1,500 to mentally disturb veterans. Malcom Mcfarlane is a KKK Wizard and related to a Greg Mcfarlane who is a KKK Wizard and a member of the west buro babtist church. We were in DC about the same time Obama announced the God Projects, and then the Brain Initiative to map the brain. Prior to this time frame Seth Mcfarlane donated 1 million to Obama for his campaign for his second term. While we were in DC Steve told me he was oening a Hypnotherapy clinic in Sacramento, he said he can put something inside a veteran, some type of ominous spiritual thing. Steve Debover was to report at Travis AFB after we returned from DC for a major meeting with a bunch of other people most of all I knew personally. I was not invited to the meeting. One person at the meeting informed me that they wanted me to be part of a hypnosis treatment program for Veterans. After that meeting my life changed and was ravaged by some ominous issue. The AF Pentagon Wounded Warrior office called me and told me that they are firing my AF Wounded Warior counselor at Travis because they were doing something that would hinder my recovery. I talked with the Travis AFB Pagan Chaplains office and he told me he would be in fear of his life if he helped me. I then found a group in Los Angeles that is within the Occult and was able to help me to a point. Their help ended allot of ominous issues. Ignorance of the Occult is where this country could be easily taken over by an enemy force. We study science, computers, engineering combat tactics but we do not study the Occult.
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TSgt Keith Wright
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TSgt Keith Wright
These are the only a few reasons why Snowdin is hiding out in Russia. If you read his briefs you will see that some of what he is un covering is something very unusual. We cannot go threw life listening to things that tickle our ears. We must fully understand what we are dealing with before we can prosecute someone. Maybe the one’s wanting to prosecute should be the ones being prosecuted. Besides what he is uncovering every nation on earth already knows about. This stuff has been around for thousands of years. That’s why it’s not that big of a deal, theirs only a hand full of people pissed over Snowdin, and those people are only wanting to protect their own hide.
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It's a Trust Issue followed closely by Confidentiality having just received my 4th OPM Letter describing what the Gov will do to Protect my Sensitive Information ooops that door should be a revolving one....
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For years after I got out, I didn't Know that a lot of the weird symptoms I was experiencing were related to the concussions I suffered while in the Corps. Even after I got a name for the spectrum of symptoms, I was shut down when I tried to get help, because the VA did not recognize the Syndrome (Meares-Irlen Syndrome) until recently. Even now, it is assumed by the VA that it can only be acquired in combat, even though all concussions are now classified as TBI. I'm tired of being shut out of new treatments (sometimes ANY treatment) because, by accident of birth, I wasn't called upon to serve in combat.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
Sgt Carol Grisham Thanks for sharing your views and story. Please feel free to reach out to me and our group at your convenience. [login to see]
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I've got TBI and pts. After a couple years at Walter Reed, I learned not to trust any of them. I'd hoped after my medical retirement and transfer to VA, I'd find docs that were really interested in treatment instead of following an agenda. Instead, I found few docs take the time to even read my medical history, play follow up appointment game with months between appointments only to be passed to some other doc who does the same thing and nothing ever gets done. I've found that 8/10 VA docs are just punching time cards and must have left their "give a shit" at home. Maybe they are overworked, understaffed, pressured more on herding us through quick turn appointments instead of thoroughly practicing medicine. Too many VA docs think they are VA compensation raters, trying hard to find ways to make cuts, instead of being docs and actually figuring out what's wrong.
Sure, I've got lots of medical problems, but it's not my TBI or pts that prevents treatment. It's the complete failure of the system.
Sure, I've got lots of medical problems, but it's not my TBI or pts that prevents treatment. It's the complete failure of the system.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
CPO J Davis Thanks for sharing your story - please feel free to reach out to our Sponsor a Vet Life program if you would like to. If you are interested and would like to attend a demonstration first, we are conducting them on Thursday nights at 7:00 PM EST. Please go to this link: http://www.sponsoravet.life/#!webinar-/dxphe
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Charles Williams I hope you have a way to get through it daily and those days are getting better!
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I think its the lack of trust when you ask for help. Its hard to trust the VA doctors and staffers when they, for the most part, seem like they are conducting sick call on the ship. If I feel I cannot trust you then I will not open up to you.
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I know for me it's hard to open up to allot of people and I do t want a pitty party from anyone
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SSG Leo Bell None give here my friend - thanks for sharing. I'm still here for you if you are interested by the way!
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