Posted on Oct 2, 2015
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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As shooting incidents seem to become more frequent what have you prepared yourself and your family to do should you ever be involved with an 'active shooter' in a public place? I have a friend (single mom veteran) who will be transferring to an online college program rather than risk dealing with a loner-loser who might 'go off' in a classroom? Suggestions on how best to prepare? Google 'bulletproof blankets' which are available for students.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/2/chris-mintz-heroic-army-veteran-was-shot-7-times-a/
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Mass Shootings are "Statistically Unlikely" and are being portrayed in such a fashion as to cause mass hysteria, to promote a political agenda.

As I have said in other threads, Mass Shootings are not Criminal in nature. They are (generally speaking) the result of Mental Health (Medical) or Ideological issues. Simply put, you cannot account for Crazy.

Now all that said, Gen. Mattis said it best.

http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/07/marine-plan-to-kill-everyone-he-meets/
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SSG Buddy Kemper
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I'm gonna mount a bayonet assault with my mop, i think.
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PO3 Electrician's Mate
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I am silently talking to myself ... "kill them all , kill them all" ... wait ... I thought I am not the mass murder!!!!???? lol
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MCPO Roger Collins
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Gotta love Mattis. Even if this did come from Dufflebag.
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Capt Walter Miller
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"Statistically Unlikely".

If you think about it, that doesn't make any sense as written.

Walt
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SGT Patrick Reno
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Hope people will know that this man is a HERO.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Especially to his son who was celebrating his 6th birthday that day!
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SGT Jerrold Pesz
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Yes, he sure is.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Fortunately I live in a Constitutional Carry state where both my wife and I are prepared to protect ourselves then help others. We discuss 'what if' scenarios to enhance our situational awareness.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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At least you have a plan of action. Good on you!
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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This pithy comment after listening to the shooter's father being interviewed and from another news website says it all:

RabidPatriot -Oct. 3, 2015 at 9:11pm

"I demand strict son control."
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/03/oregon-shooters-father-says-what-could-have-prevented-his-shooting-rampage-what-right-do-you-have/
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PO3 Electrician's Mate
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too bad my wife still look toward me for all protection ... although she is a better marksmen than me. :)
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Excellent advice, SSG Gentile. My dad loved model railroad sets, so I can imagine how many hours of time and sentiment you must have invested beyond just 15 years.
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I guess you will have to shoot at me to find out.
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SFC Everett Oliver
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Truth is I wished this had been a possible multiple answer. We most all would like to think we would do what was necessary. And I do believe I would. However, I can't say that 100%... But I still would not be caught without a gun today....
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SGT Michael Glenn
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SSgt Terry P. - I will agree 100% on that one. Its like the old saying we are combat ready. My eye we are combat ready, there will never be enough training to ever be ready for every situation. Most of us vets havent done anything in years and Im not sure how much most have retained. I keep myself up on my 9mm and know I could take a target out with ease, but thats a stationary target that isnt shooting back at me either. Im not a spring chicken either...more like a broken down old turkey.
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SP5 Howard Moore
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SGT Michael Glenn - Yep I don't move near as fast as I did 30 years ago and I dare say my hand and eye coordination isn't near what it was as when I was on the pistol tean at ft Carson
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SGT James Hastings
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I think that a person really doesn't know what they would do until confronted with that situation. I'd l like to think that I'd at least die trying to help others.
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SGT Michael Glenn
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It all depends on the situation and if I see a way to neutralize the threat without causing further chaos, and do it fast, the longer one waits the fewer chances there are.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Amen, the clock be ticking...
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SPC Luis Mendez
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That's why is so important to Pray once you're out of bed, 'cause you don't know when the Lord is going to call you Home. I can't run much anymore so I guess I'll duck and hide preferably above the shooter and then look for something to throw at him from above. All along I'll be doing my prayers in case is my day to go home.
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MAJ David Wallace
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As I am currently working in law enforcement as a patrol supervisor, I plan on moving to the sound of the guns and stopping the threat. We are living in dangerous times and we need to all be prepared to protect ourselves, our families, and our communities.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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I share your 'trained instinct' after over a decade of law enforcement service. Thanks for being out on the front lines for us. My intent in creating this post was to raise awareness and preparation for when evil appears.
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MAJ David Wallace
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Evil prospers where good men do nothing.......Keep the faith, Chief Carrillo!!
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TSgt David L.
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As a licensed concealed carrier and well trained I would close with the shooter while taking cover/concealment and direct folks to safety while trying for a well placed kill shot.
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MGySgt George W Iliffe Jr
MGySgt George W Iliffe Jr
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I also have a CCW, but here in Texas everyone has a gun. I only carried mine a few times but I make sure that when I go to town I wear my depends. Never can tell when they may become necessary.
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TSgt David L.
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MGySgt George W Iliffe Jr - I would have to say nearly everyone has a weapon here as well. You don't see mass shootings in either place. I guess when you KNOW everyone is packing it makes you have second thoughts about starting something you won't get a chance to finish! :D
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MSG Brad Sand
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TSgt David L.
I hope this is what you would do but remember that everything changes when contact is actually made and we only really know what we think we would do, until we actually do it.
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TSgt David L.
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MSG Brad Sand - That's true. But a guy has to have something to act on. That's why we train our troops until it becomes muscle memory. I hope it never comes to that, but if it does I hope folks will act.
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Capt Walter Miller
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If you found yourself in a situation where you are carrying, probably a hand gun, and you want to take on some armed ass hyped up on how easy "Gears of War" is, you have to factor in what happens when the police arrive.  Because they will shoot you on sight.

Walt
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Capt Walter Miller
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Nice to get some votes up, and it is definitely a thing. Hopefully you can dispatch or disarm some anti-social perp before he hurts someone, but when you see the blue lights or hear the sirens, you better divest -yourself- of fire arms instantly.

That really is another facet of responsible gun ownership.

Walt
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Excellent point. My CCW 7-hour training covered the legal, psychological, and practical aspects and what you should tell the 911 operator during an active shooter situation. I recommend anyone wishing to CCW take such a course of training.
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Capt Walter Miller
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Another thing to keep in mind is that you may shoot the worst perp there ever was and it might haunt you. Maybe not, but another thing to consider.

Walt
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Capt Walter Miller
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OKay, below is a video of how the police shot the 12 YO kid up in Cleveland who had what turned out to be an airsoft pistol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXu_J1Sxnb4

If you are on the scene when an active shooter is reported, you better not look like a shooter.

Walt
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SGT Rick Ash
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I carry so would be prepared. If the bad guy thinks he can shield himself just give me an inch, anything. I'll put a .45 cal hollow point through it. I practice daily, 6 years military and am prepared for an event like this if that's possible.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Thanks for caring enough to practice and to being as prepared as one possibly can given fluid circumstances.
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SGT Rick Ash
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS - I do care enough, my wife practices with her Walther PPS 9mm, it's a nice military black and green. Little small for my hands. I save a little by buying range ammo but we pay for it in our nightly cleanings. She's so cute, we were headed out west and crossing into KC, Kansas one day was the Cabela's Mother Ship, it was huge! I told her, Whatever you want hon. She bought a Cabelas labeled steel case complete gun cleaning kit and an extra bottle of nitro. Is that great or what?
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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I have his 'n' hers Walther PPC's and we love their ergonomics. My wife still prefers her Ruger Mk III .22 bull barrel target pistol with holographic sight. She shoots quarter-sized groups at 15 yds. She's spoiled...
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