Posted on Jul 6, 2015
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1. What are your thoughts on the new OCP uniform and them not being available all once. 2. Do you think mis-matching them will look silly? 3. Wouldn't it be better to get everything available all at once? 4. Should we now go back to the beret?
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LTC John Mohor
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I'm glad I'm retired so that i don't have to purchase another fiel uniform. The one thing I want to know is why do we have to keep matching the patch color to the uniform color? The fatigue uniform had color patches then subdued. These same subdued patchess were worn with all three variations ob BDUs( wide collar, summer weight and side buttons). Even the chocolate chip uniform from Desert Storm had regular subdued patches. Now that the patches are even removable and garrison has the red, white and blue flag patch why don't we just have all the colorized patches worn in garrison? While we're at it let's have one subdued, not three or more versions for the field and deployment?
Just my two cents worth.
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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Feels better, looks better! Transition is always good!
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I haven't had the pleasure of wearing the OCP yet. I like the color. I wish we could sew our patches on, I never change mine.
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I was hoping for that also. I do not like the Velcro era. I'm good with buttons and some black boots.
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SFC Combat Engineer
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Black suede boots??? That could work. Couldn't be leather though, PVTs in BCT would literally die from trying to figure out the shine. Also some of them would probably eat the polish. Things I picked up from being a drill sergeant. This generation is crazy.
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SGT Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic
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I like them a lot better than the UCP ones. After wearing a set for a few months I wish there were some things different about them:

1. The shoulder pockets - I wish they had kept the same ones from the UCP, I don't care for the slant or the IR tab cover, like the zipper though.
2. I wish they never would have put buttons on the cuffs or calf pockets. I believe these two areas are where Velcro worked great.

As far as the mismatching, its not a huge issue in my opinion. I like the fact they have the chart that specifically says what you can wear with either uniform. As far as the beret, like others have said its good for Special Ops and Airborne personnel. For everyone else the PC is good to go.
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SFC Instructor
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I really like the new OCP's. It seems easier on the eye and now to me the ACU's look like cook whites. The only issue I have is the difference in size between the mediums and larges. The medium tops come up to tight around the armpits and the larges are way to big giving an improper fit appearance.
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SFC Deputy Station Commander
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I'm 5'11 190, and I go with everything medium regular. Those seem to fit perfect for me.
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MSG Intelligence Analyst
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I've been wearing the OCP now for a few weeks and the only changes I would make up to this point is 1. Go back to sewing on Unit/Combat Patch and US Flag, 2. Go back to collar rank, 3. Go back to black boots. 4. I am not a huge fan of the zipper pockets on the upper arm. Other than that fit/feel is no different than the ACU but the camouflage pattern is a significant upgrade.

As for the beret, no black beret.
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SFC Deputy Station Commander
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Agree on black boots, but I'm for the beret, hands down. Thanks for the feedback. MSG (Join to see)
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SGT Project Engineer
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All of this the 1SG said. All of it.
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SFC Human Resources Specialist
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Bring back the BDU/DCU era, when Soldiers had to take care of their uniforms and actually look professional, bring back the discipline and the pride of our uniform... Actually that might hurt some feelings, sorry bad idea...
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A quick answer to question 4: HELL NO!
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No one likes the beret???.. I'm starting to think it's because people ruined it but not properly forming them or wearing them correctly.
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SrA Matthew Knight
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As an Airman, I am extremely jealous. The OCP is a pattern that looks good and works and the Army is right for finally coming to their senses and authorizing it stateside and overseas as the standard Army uniform. Now I can't wait for Gen Welsh to announce the Air Force is following suit........oh wait.
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I think it's great also. I just which we had kept the boots or just go back to black because I just spent money buying new UCP boots now here comes the OCP with different accessories.
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SrA Matthew Knight
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Some of the rules for after the wear out date like the boots, belts and shirts changing color do seem kind of ridiculous. Either way I wish it would be authorized for the AF stateside. Even if we were allowed to do it only if we payed out of pocket for the uniforms with correct patches and everything I wouldn't hesitate to procure a set or two and abandon my ABUs.
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CW2 Information Systems Technician
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1. like
2. mismatch as in tan/brown boots/belts shoes...no, i cant figure out why they need to change the colors of those items
3.of course
4 oh hell no
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No one likes 4. I must be the only one that likes 4. But that's due to my Drill back in 2005 he made it seem as if we had to earn the beret. I know Spec Ops and other skill identifying badges earn theirs differently but he made us feel like that's how we earned ours. Not to take away from my battles out there that go the extra mile or two.
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I do like it with the ASU tho
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PFC Donnie Harold Harris
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No thanks.
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SSG Supply Sergeant (S4)
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Personally I understand why we need the change but if the military is having budget problems???????? Why change out the uniform and pt's that's what I don't understand.
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It doesn't hurt the government to make the change. It hurts us we have to replace them, good thing it's at a 4yr rate.
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1. It would be nice if it was readily available to everyone all at once but there are a lot of people needing it. That being said I would have at least 2 sets inbound already if I could.
2. Might look like socks on a rooster but it is what it is. I wore brown t-shirts with ACUs until the last day I could because I had 10,000 of them. I wore my BDUs most of the time anyways until the very end because UPC looks terrible.
3. I still haven't heard anything about OCIE issue. Good thing most of my gear I have purchased and is either Tan/Brown or MultiCam.
4. No. Biggest PITA. I think the last time I wore one was 2009.

At this point I don't know if it really matters because you get 4 sets of flame retardant uniforms before deployment. Leave those to be produced in whatever pattern you need along with OCIE. Turn in the OCIE after deployment and get back in to the UPC ACUs. Not endorsing or saying I like them but would be easier. I miss my woodlands with a nice sharp crease and high polished boots. Much more professional looking uniform than any ACU could be no matter the pattern. Anyone read they are considering bringing back woodland for a jungle pattern anyways.

I actually hope whomever decided on the UCP in the first place and charged with fraud, waste, and abuse of funds. This has been one of the biggest wastes of money and resources. Picking a pattern that once competed with UPC to replace it because it is better? I think a 3rd grader could have picked Scorpion over UPC.
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SPC Wheeled Vehicle Mechanic
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OCP is pretty close to multi cam. We wore tan tee, belt, boots with that down range. Didn't look off to me. I agree the brown tee, belt, boots will make it look better, but tan doesn't detract in my opinion.

Cost wise, for a lower enlisted, is is kinda steep. Even with clothing allowance. A decent pair of boots sounds like $120-$150, plus new tapes, patches ect. Just one complete set of OCP can run you upwards $250-$300. And this on top of a new PT uniform.
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Don't you get issued stuff? Serious question!
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GySgt Ronald Bacote
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Good for desert land .
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