Posted on Jun 24, 2014
Cpl Brett Wagner
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So this is more of a question for my army brothers than it is a discussion. I am curious to know what the colors mean.

Thanks Wags
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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Edited 7 y ago
Black - Low Speed High Drag
Maroon - High Speed Low Drag
Tan - Bad A$$ Michael Foxtrot
Green - Insanely Bad A$$ Michael Foxtrot, facial hair optional

Just to put this in perspective, this comment is just simple Army humor about beret colors and what units wear them. No disrespect to anyone's achievements or merits is intended based on what beret they wear/wore.

I'm was a commo guy and our chief of police flew Cobras. He calls me, "cable boy" and I call him, "rotor head."
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Col Pat Nance
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Right on, Maj. Petracra.
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SGT Josh Suchoski
SGT Josh Suchoski
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Can’t say as I agree sir. I have met plenty of black berets that are far more competent than the maroon or tan. I do agree with you on the green ones though.
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SGT Larry Cooper
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The Frontline Guys( or behind) are heavily depentent on every dog in the wheel,thanks guys.
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SSG Jason Penn
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It's more like:
Black - every day Joe
Tan - crybaby because "they took my black from me and color of head gear is more important than my achievements"
Maroon - lawn dart
Green - Military Advisor
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Cpl Brett Wagner
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All - Thank you for your willingness to explain the beret to an outsider. From the time I saw the movie "The Green Beret" I always had great respect for those men and their uniform. However IMHO they are the only ones I ever thought looked good in a beret. Any other time I see one I tend to think it and what it takes to earn one has been... well borrowed. Again in my opinion if you have a Ranger badge that already says you are a bad ass, if you have jump wings it already says there is something very seriously wrong with because you will jump out of a perfectly good aircraft. lol - Yeah you guys don't need a hat that is also worn by girl scouts and snooty French artists. You all have my respect.

What bothers me now after learning all of this is I now know that Bergdhal is Airborne. He is obviously the odd man out when it comes to that very honorable group of men.
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SSG Thomas  A Gilmore
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SSG Ephriam Frizzell - may be the 25th
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SGT John C.
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if he was with the 82d he had to have gone to Airborne/Jump school at some point. I do believe he was Airborne qualified but only as a 5 jump chump as we used to call them.
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MAJ Critical Care Nurse
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Don’t forget the dark brown for SFAB. On a side note : Just because someone wears a piece of headgear or has a badge does not quantify their contribution to a unit/organization. Take people for their own merit. This goes both ways.
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SGT Larry Cooper
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Just remember Cpl,100% of plane crashes occur at the time the aircraft touches down;get out of it early.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
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Black: Let's see if we can simultaniously piss off the Rangers AND everybody who isn't a Ranger.
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CW4 Tim Claus
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Well, the Rangers took them away from the independent Armor brigades, so all is fair.....
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1LT Rich Voss
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CW3 Kevin Storm - just posted that in the 60's-70's German tankers berets were light brown/dark tan. Have one in my closet right now...
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Sgt Michael Hoffman
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Cavalry Scouts now have the tan beret.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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1LT Rich Voss - Go back to 1940 and check the color
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What do the different color berets in the Army signify?
SSG General Services Technician And State Vehicle Inspector
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Before the changeover in 2001, the green beret signified Special Forces, the maroon signified Airborne, and the black signified Ranger. The black beret was "taken" from the Rangers and given to the whole Army as the new headgear. The Ranger black beret was changed with a tan beret.
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1LT Rich Voss
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CW4 Tim Claus - What year/s was that ? We never had berets. Our attached "A" Cav guys liked the idea of old 1880's brimmed hats with braids... I'm a tanker and we sure didn't have any in the 60's...
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SPC Herold Bush
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1LT Rich Voss , SFC Les Traylor, BSM, MA - In the 1970s, Army policy allowed local commanders to encourage morale-enhancing uniform distinctions, and the use of berets boomed. Armor personnel at Fort Knox, Ky., wore the traditional British black beret, while U.S. armored cavalry regiments in Germany wore the black beret with a red and white oval.
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1LT Rich Voss
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SPC Herold Bush - So, I missed by 10 years or so.. I do, in fact, have a tankers beret. But it's from one of my comrades in the Bundeswehr. It's wool and medium brown with a now somewhat flattened sigel on the front. Sadly, it blew off my head and was run over by a following vehicle. Our regular "hats" were mostly CVC helmets (LOL) or baseball style caps. One softer, one more traditionally shaped. Or the beloved cold-weather "Mickey Mouse" cap that we wore FAR too often !
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CW4 Tim Claus
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1LT Rich Voss - Saw them at Ft Knox in '73-74 time frame while I was doing AIT. The Car guys wore the black cav brimmed hats in Class A's or B's. Of course some of the Car folks also had some very impressive handlebar mustaches, lol.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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That someone at or above the O-7 pay grade has nothing better to do, or, is looking for their next star.
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SFC Stephen Carden
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Cpl Fermil, here is a good link to find out the history of the military use of the beret.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/berethistory.htm

I particularly like this line: In 1951, the Marine Corps experimented with green and blue berets, but dismissed them because they looked too “foreign” and “feminine.”

In general, the only use the beret has these days is to distinguish "special" units and provide esprit de corps. Practically, the beret is horrible. It holds in the summer heat, provides no shade from the sun, stinks when wet, and once it gets dirty it is ruined. The patrol cap is much more practical as a daily duty uniform headgear. The beret does, however, look really good with dress uniform and jump boots. I happened to be in Korea when the black beret was mandated for wear by the Army. It was horrible. There is an elaborate ritual to prepare a beret for wear that includes shaving and shaping the beret. There is also a particular way that the beret should be worn. I was one of the only airborne troops in my unit in Korea, so it fell to me and one or two others to educate the entire unit on how to prepare and wear the black beret. Oh, the horror! Those guuys had no clue how silly they actually looked.
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SGM Van Seagraves
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We never wore the Green Beret in the grass or on missions. Boonie hats or I preferred the cravat wrapped around my head..
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1SG Henry Minor
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Berets belong to the specialized units.I retired in 1995 before the headgear change.I have served in airborne units ,But never earned or felt i should wear the Beret.
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SP5 Dennis Loberger
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While I totally respected and still do those that wore berets in my time (1972-1974). I never liked berets. Still prefer a Garrison cap
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CW4 Tim Claus
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Only reason I had any use for a beret was to get rid of the garrison cap, which was always trying to pop off your head. As a CWO when the berets were initiated, I would have preferred to keep wearing the bus driver hat with the Class As.
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Sgt Christopher Karney
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my personal favorite beret comment was from Marine Commandant Krulak. When asked about a uniform upgrade to a beret, his reply: “I don’t want my Marines looking like Frenchmen”
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CPT Ahmed Faried
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Edited >1 y ago
Green (Special Forces)
Red (Airborne)
Tan (Ranger)
Black (Feel good beret)
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CPT Ahmed Faried
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Army approved.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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Cpl Dennis F.
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Cpl Brett Wagner I've got a black one around here somewhere with a silver embroidered tank flash on it. It was S. Vietnamese tanker gear. Not even sure how I came by it. Either souvenired to me or just ripped it off, being a tanker.
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Cpl James Baumgardner
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Cpl Dennis F. - I have a Black beret as well, has some sort of a silver emblem with a red feather on it. Traded with a Norwegian home guard, back in 79
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1SG Vet Technician
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The special forces Green Beret color is homage to their connection to the British Commandos during WW11 who wore that color. Do knot know what the green specifically means though.

Ranger Regiment Tan Berets: Black used to be the color they wore until the (poor) decision was made to make black the army wide color. Tan was used to replace the (stolen) black. The tan color symbolizes the buckskin caps worn by the Rogers' Rangers during the French and Indian War in the 1750s

Airborne Maroon Berets: First worn by British airborne under General Frederick Browning. Supposedly the color was chosen by the General's wife. I don't think it has significance other then what it has now earned as an international symbol of airborne forces.

If anyone else knows more specifics about the meanings of the colors, please chime in.
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SSG Darrell Peters
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When the United States Army was looking to establish its own "Commando" Unit they looked at the British Royal Marines who wear the Green Beret. Those who Completed the British Royal Marine Commando Training were given the Green Beret from the British Royal Marines. Then the U.S. Army established their own "Commando" Schools but instead of adopting the Name "Army Commando" They wanted their own identity that would link to American History So the name "Army Ranger" was adopted.
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SGT Joshua Bressel
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The Rangers also chose tan, as the new color, in homage to the 22nd SAS, a unit they share a connection to. Also, WW 11? Did I sleep through 8? Just giving you crap, good synopsis.
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SSG Trevor S.
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Black berets signify theft,,,,,er they signify completion of training and being a Soldier.
Maroon berets are for those who need a reserve to the reserve chute. (Airborne)
Tan berets were property attained after the theft of the black berets for the Rangers.
Green berets are sung about in song often enough that you should know they are for Special Forces.
Raspberry beret is to signify the prince.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdUbQTsE-cM
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SPC Training Room Nco
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Oh yeah, we're not allowed to talk about the man in the pink beret anymore.
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CPL Wagner: To Caveat what SSG Redondo has stated below, there is a red ball cap that only parachute riggers wear, and that is the only headgear they wear most of the time - at least in their unit and anytime they are performing duties as a rigger. I don't think that technically they are authorized to wear them outside of their unit AO or when they are not performing duties (such as when they are out and about at the exchange or something), but I see them doing this all the time at Fort Bragg so I may be wrong on that.
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SSG General Services Technician And State Vehicle Inspector
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SFC, that is true too although he was referring to just berets. I don't think they should be allowed to wear the red ballcap except while conducting airborne operations. I'm sure you know this but it came about so that jumpers would know on the DZ who is a rigger in order to seek assistance.
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2LT Michael Lear
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Maroon caps worn by Medic instructors
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One of the Army's dumbest ideas, and they've had many. Where's the distinction if everybody has one? Felt bad for Rangers when the black beret was authorized for everyone. Other than the distinctive feature, berets are completely useless!
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SGT Jim Jones
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I was never prouder when I was awarded my Green Beret. It made me feel like I was something special. Then the Army started issuing berets to everyone who had completed basic combat training. Not as much pride in the Beret as before. HHC, 19th SFGA, 1st SF.
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Cpl Brett Wagner
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You should still be very proud you are part of a very select elite group. A 100 men with test today but only 3 will win the Green Beret.
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SGT Jim Jones
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Thank you for your statement. I guess I was just feeling down. The Green Beret is my most prized award.
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1SG Henry Minor
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Berets belong to the specialized units.I retired in 1995 before the headgear change.I have served in Airborne units ,but never earned ,or thought i should wear the Beret
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CW4 Tim Claus
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Pride should come from what you accomplished, not how many items are hung on your uniform. When you have been around long enough you know that badges, medals, etc are not really applied in an even handed and impartial manner.....
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The Air Force also wears berets.

CCT/STO – Scarlet
PJ/CRO – Maroon
TACP/ALO – Black
Weather Parachutists – Grey
Security Force – Blue
SERE Specialists – Sage Green
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SFC Combat Engineer
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What is a weather parachutist?? Just curious.
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They gather and interpret weather data and provtide intelligence from deployed locations while serving as members of Air Force Special Tactics teams with US Army Special Operations Forces.

Combat Weathermen collect data, assist mission planning, generate accurate and mission-tailored target and route forecasts in support of global special operations, conduct special weather reconnaissance, and train foreign national forces.

They are specifically located to provide meteorological and oceanographic support to various components of the U.S. Army Special Operations Command.
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SFC Combat Engineer
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MSgt (Join to see) - That's pretty cool, I've never heard of them.
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Many in the Air Force don't no much about them. Must just recognize Combat Controllers, PJ's and SERE personal and what they do.
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MAJ Michael Steely
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A functionless piece of uniform. At least the baseball cap offered shade. The baseball cap took one hand to put on and it didn’t take special manipulation to “shape “ correctly. The military should be about killing the enemy not how pretty you look. Give me a cap with pockets-extra ammo carriers-knife holder -something-anything functional- not something that takes more time to do nothing but look good.
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Cpl Brett Wagner
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LoL
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SGT Joshua Bressel
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2 words: boonie hat.
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SFC Randall Atchison
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When I was at Bragg I would watch the troops with the berets fooling with those darn things trying get it straight. Too big of a pain in the butt for me! Give me a soft cap any day!
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CW4 Tim Claus
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Of all baseball caps, my favorite was the derby cap worn with OD fatigues. At least it had some elastic at the back that would help keep the SOB on your head in a stiff breeze.
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Black - graduates basic

Maroon - Yard Dart

Tan - Didnt get peered out and was able to stand at graduation

Green - The only one actually earned any more.
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Very funny (but accurate) descriptions.
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SGT Jim Ramge, MBA
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The ones that got fucked were the Rangers - about all that needs to be said on the color fiasco! Should have NEVER dishonored them by removing their namesake. As a non-tab bearing leg medically retired MI puke, that is my honor to you fine men and women of the Ranger Regiment! God Bless and Hooah!
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Cpl Brett Wagner
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Thank you for your honesty and service.
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SPC Jelle Matt
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Bergdahl is NOT Airborne. He got to wear a maroon beret because of the unit he was attached to. What a fucking travesty.
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CPL Chris Palmberg
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US troops in Europe began adopting berets at the discretion of unit commanders. They were generally worn as a means of informal differentiation and often followed our Allies' approach. For example, tankers began wearing black berets similar to German tankers to be easily distinguished from the mech units with whom they were often colocated. The airborne beret is the same shade as the British 1st Para Regiment headgear. When, in the 1960s, President Kennedy commented about the absence of berets amongst S.F. troops at a formal review, it was taken as an executive order authorizing wear of the Green Beret. This, amongst other factors, is why the Special Warfare Center at Ft. Bragg is named in his honor... he was considered the patron, almost the Patron Saint of SF.
When General Shinseki determined all troops should wear berets, and chose black as the universal color, the Ranger Regiment switched to tan, the color of the 22nd SAS Regiment, as their distinctive color.
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SGT Joshua Bressel
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You all missed 2, that are regularly worn by Army units, though, I believe anyone assigned to said mission can wear them. I add them for clarity, since I have actually been asked. Light blue is for personnel who have been attached to the United Nations, or UN duties, such as "peacekeeping" or "peace enforcement"(surprisingly differing levels of danger there), and brick red berets, for troops assigned to the Sainai peace keeping mission. Also, there is a new, though I'm not 100% up to speed on it, ADVISORY force, who have a new, I believe "brown" beret. They were originally to have a "shade of green" beret, but that, and their unit insignia's similarity to that of SF, led to a communal "Shit Fit", in the SF community.
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