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PO1 Rick Serviss
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PO1 Jim Harvey
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I thought when they went to that blue camo pattern that someone had completely lost their mind. If I were to fall overboard, the LAST thing I would want to be is camouflaged in the sea. Bring back the dungarees and chambray shirts with iron-on crows and stenciled names. Not the silly designer dungarees with embroidered chevrons, name tapes and air warfare wings. Those things are too expensive to work in if there is any chance of you getting greasy or stained.
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PO1 Gery Bastiani
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What does the Fleet need camies there on a Ship or sub. Stay with the old dungrees, being a retired Seabee I wish they would of stayed with the old greens instead of the camies we are construction not front line combat
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PO3 Frank Opalecky
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It's a clear sign of the lack of direction provided by the current leadership.
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Cpl Christopher Bishop
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Its NOT a fashion show, people. Personally I kinda like the Navy's blue/grey MARPAT looking stuff...for shipboard people above decks where any concealment (visually or digitally speaking) might have any chance at all of being useful. But if there is a SEAL Team anywhere nearby they should probably be in ground coloring, perhaps a version of the USMC MARPAT. Id say same for Coast Guard. I do not believe the USAR or USAF should have the same thing, but if the Marine MARPAT were "owned-per-se" by the Navy, then the Navy could pass it to their USMC and USCG sub-departments as they see fit. Except for having to modify it to remove the USMC Emblems which the USMC was smart enough to embed into their pattern as they knew the rest of yah would be tryin' to get your mittens on it..lol

Remember, the Army spent lots more money on their Version 1 Digiflage, something like $5M, and it turned out it doesn't work all that well digitally speaking. The Corps made theirs for a mere $300K and it works much better...so much better that apparently the Army tried to get its hands on it. Go Figure. I see little wrong with keeping the branches mildly different in appearances, or a branch who came up something better holding onto it as unique. And while I will admit some bias here...I have no problem with those who hit the beaches first (and then sitting and waiting for the Army to arrive) having the better stuff....they take more risk. Come to think of it...I'm not sure why the Army would want any Digiflage at all until they first remove all of those patches which likely disrupt the Digiflage pattern anyway. Or what they need any camouflage at all for, if they are located in areas the Marines already secured prior to pushing enemy lines forward.

All of that said, I know there are already some newer camouflage patterns in the works, etc. And there will always be an argument about having several versions per branch as it matches the terrain of various locations more closely.

Respectfully,
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The USCG is not a Navy sub-department, unlike the Marines.
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CAPT Hiram Patterson
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SCPO (Join to see) - You mean cargo. USCG is part of Homeland Security.
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Cpl Christopher Bishop
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Yes, thank you for the reminder.
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PO2 Dale Brown
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Its been a state of constant change since Zumwalt was CNO- and how many changes made? I remember those " flame retardant" pullover shirts that melted instead of burning! Tha navy brass keeps trying, and failing, to be stylish- only the uniform contractors benefit- blue chambray shirts and dungaree trousers aeem to be the most sensible uniform- at least for a working uniform.
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
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It's a French uniform. Chambray is in Normandy and the dungarees come from Nimes. (de nime) My ancestors were the Comte of Chambray.
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PO2 Dale Brown
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I have no problem with a uniform of French ancestry- after all, if the French Fleet had not been on station, Cornwallis would never have surrendered- and we would allvstill be drinking tea instead of coffee!
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CWO2 Roger Lamb
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Self inflicted wounds are the hardest to treat.
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Waste of time and money. If they think I'm going to spend $1000 getting three more useless uniforms, they're mistaken. I've still never worn an NWU that I paid for.
LCDR Glenn Adwell
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The Navy is just continuing a trend started long ago. When I went to boot camp in 1978, we had the dark blue tops and dark blue dungarees. When I made 3rd class and went to sea, I could no longer wear those, and had to buy an entire outfitting of chambray shirts and dungarees. When I commissioned 5 years later, we had to have all CNT uniforms for whites and khakis, so there was another ridiculous expense caused by change. I am glad I was out before the blueberries came in. They were a stupid concept from day one and it seems to be getting worse putting sailors in uniforms made for hiding in the woods.

My daughter just commissioned as a 2LT and had to purchase her entire uniforms set because the ROTC uniforms she had are enlisted, not officer, and they changed the "cammies" pattern, and changed the belts, boots, and even undershirts. She had nothing she could wear!
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PO2 Lemual Martin
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I always found the idea of wearing camo sill when I was in. I was getting out when the current uniforms were being implemented routed a chit to not have to wear them since my separation date was so close. I was on a fast attack sub and used to joke shouldn't we just have black BDU's and the surface fleet grey?
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PO1 Elverton Chin
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This uniform change is really a waste of money and the blue gray cammies are not even ten years old yet. I was fortunate to have worn it and in the summer, it is really warm to wear but I still wore it with pride. I prefer to wear the Chambray shirts and the bell bottom dungarees as the traditional working uniforms and they are very comfortable, especially during the summer months. Our traditional look as the Navy is constantly changing beyond recognition. Soon, I may have to ask which branch of service you are affiliated to, as I may not recognize the uniform. Whoever, makes these decisions to change uniforms should go out in the field to get feedbacks before making any major decision changes. It seems to me that you never wore these uniforms before, so you can never really justify your change. This may be a way for you to earn an extra ribbon/metal for your chest, but a costly one for the Navy and especially the tax payers.
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