Posted on Aug 16, 2017
What is the most appropriate way to address someone being given a false PT score, while minimizing the damage to their career?
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Apologies for my terrible English. Here is the question broken down and explained in what I hope is in better terms.
The situation is that a soldier was given a false pt score by a previous NCO for whatever reasons that he had. The soldier has now changed duty stations and was promoted to Sgt rank. She has not been pinned yet but took a diagnostic pt test and failed the pt test. Now the question is being raised about her really having a 300 pt score and she is scared and has been scared to say anything about the changing of her records. My question is what can she do as for this to not effect her career in a negative way? Especially in light of her not declining the promotion. I do understand that myself knowing what is going on and not saying anything can put me in the same boat as her. I know the wrong answer is to not say anything but what's the best way to go about doing something if anything to minimize the amount of damage done to her or multiple people's careers?
The situation is that a soldier was given a false pt score by a previous NCO for whatever reasons that he had. The soldier has now changed duty stations and was promoted to Sgt rank. She has not been pinned yet but took a diagnostic pt test and failed the pt test. Now the question is being raised about her really having a 300 pt score and she is scared and has been scared to say anything about the changing of her records. My question is what can she do as for this to not effect her career in a negative way? Especially in light of her not declining the promotion. I do understand that myself knowing what is going on and not saying anything can put me in the same boat as her. I know the wrong answer is to not say anything but what's the best way to go about doing something if anything to minimize the amount of damage done to her or multiple people's careers?
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Fraud
APFT
UCMJ
Promotions
Edited 8 y ago
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Get the women out of the military. Probably the woman got her false PT score by "servicing" the NCO.
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Go to AIG and speak with them. But back it up with solid proof. Then it should be in your favor. This is from an old Army Vet. Been there
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If they're willing to lie and cheat to get ahead, why would I care about their military career? They obviously don't.
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Duty and honor. She appears possibly to failed with both. The solution. PT in the morning, PT at lunch and PT in the evening until she meets the standard. It's her duty to be fit. Making the wrong into a right would go a long way to restore her honor. You shouldn't have to back into the promotion line or pay line. We all have mirrors I personally like to look into mine and respect the person I see
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A delay in the promotion until she passes the PT test is in order! She can be counseled accordingly! And the matter can be dealt with quietly! I it what I did when I was in! She has to prove herself, period! Sometimes the carrot and stick method works, integrity is built in and will teach her a lesson!
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I feel she needs to retake the apft and the points should be recalculated. She didn't pencil whip the record, her NCO did and I'm sure he instructed her not to say anything which put her in a very awkward situation. Most senior NCO and officers lack integrity and everyone knows that is why they test seperate from lower enlisted soldiers and always pass smh...It starts at the top!!! I know you guys have seen high ranking soldiers walking around fat and sloppy wondering how they are still in and haven't been demoted. So stop the madness
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Simply put, she should own it and decline the promotion for failing the diagnostic PT and for having a fake score. Admit any knowledge of the fake score if she knows anything. Take whatever ass-chewing or administrative punishment that comes her way and move on. Be ready for the next promotion board.
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To say she didnt know her PTSD score was faked is unbelievable an obviously she is in bad shape or she could just take another test so that says to me she does not care about being a leader it's the little things that show what a person is made of just myself how can I expect to lead when I cant do it myself an if she is lying to herself think what she is capable of just a old soldiers opinion
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how can you not know your score. you want me to believe she didn't know 300 wow that's unbelieveable. We use to look up what we needed to pass and kept track of how we were doing.
The damage is done and somebody needs to stand up for what they did.
The damage is done and somebody needs to stand up for what they did.
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