Posted on Mar 31, 2016
What is the proper way to handle soldiers (junior enlisted) addressing each other as Sergeant Major?
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Is there a regulation addressing this or is it just something the old school soldiers would never dream of doing, and the new school soldiers just do whatever they want?
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Responses: 55
They are probably doing it to yank your chain. I didn't give a shit if my Marines called each other the Grand Poobah of upper butt crack, as long as they did what they were supposed to
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SSgt Terry P.
1stSgt Eugene Harless Absolutely,1stSgt,usually a teasing manner to a peer telling them to get their job done. LOL
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
1stSgt Eugene Harless Young troops that do that goofy stuff are the ones you can rely upon when needed.
They know who is in charge and are just playing around!
I absolutely love young troops for; their willingness, ability, strength, ingenuity and stupidity.
They know who is in charge and are just playing around!
I absolutely love young troops for; their willingness, ability, strength, ingenuity and stupidity.
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SFC Edwin Watson
The troops need to be aware of their environment when doing so. It's one thing to bullshit in the back of the motor pool or out in the woods. They need to watch it when at the main px or anywhere the installation brass is likely to walk by.
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My friends use to call me "Command Private Major" when I started working as the driver. They meant no harm and certainly no disrespect to our CSM. I think the Army's sensitivity training might be making all of us a bit too soft to feel comfortable with harmless humor.
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SFC Cynthia Eyer
Calling each other a non-existent rank is different than disrespecting a military member and the service they have honored all of us with so as to obtain their rank. Now that’s insensitive.
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All Soldiers are to be addressed by their rank. Referring to each other by another grade is at the very least disrespectful to that grade or the person holding that grade in that unit. If they are doing it in gest indicating their future, then a simple motivating conversation should handle it, if it is in a mocking manner then the conversation turns to disrespect.
You assert your lawful authority and make the correction.
You assert your lawful authority and make the correction.
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PFC Adam Whirls
They were probably referring to each other as command Private major or command specialist of the army. It’s a joke
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SGT Jason Quarles
Really. Take the stick out of your ass. They are just joking with each other. Unless they are calling a superior something other than their rank than just leave it alone as it just soldiers being soldiers
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
You have no business speaking to me or anyone else in this manner. Your choice in response was uncalled for, unprofessional and rude. SGT Jason Quarles
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TSgt Carl Johnson
SrA Paul Pfeil - Sometimes, with the newer uniforms, it's hard to see the rank until you are very close to the other member, especially the OCP and Marine Corp digital camo.
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Never knew this was an issue, on the spot verbal roundhouse kick to the face should work.
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CSM Michael Chavaree
Simmer down big guy, it was a joke, this is like 2 years oldCPL Daniel Eastland
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PFC Adam Whirls
Probably referring to each other as command private major or specialist general of the army or something just joking around no need to get uptight unless they are referring to you.
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CSM Michael Chavaree
Nobody getting uptight, honestly privates were not that immature where I come from, I am not used to them acting like children. PFC Adam Whirls
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1LT William Clardy
Seriously, CPL Daniel Eastland, how did you miss the "verbal" in "on the spot verbal roundhouse kick"?
Just ponder how a master of righteous verbal massacre like R. Lee Ermey would have handled it...
Just ponder how a master of righteous verbal massacre like R. Lee Ermey would have handled it...
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To me what is funny about this is that I knew of an instance where the proper form of address for a Sergeant (E-5) in my company was Sergeant Major. We even had an incident during a battalion awards formation where they were calling out individuals for awards shortly after he was promoted, when the Adjutant called out "Sergeant Major" and both Sergeant Major and the Battalion Command Sergeant Major responded. Almost the entire battalion busted up laughing. His rank was Sergeant and his Last Name was Major.
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Capt Seid Waddell
SSG Robert Webster, there was a 1LT Hook at Eglin when I was there; the whole base was looking forward to his promotion.
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Once, I encountered a Sgt in my company out in town. He was in civvies, wearing a ball cap with regulation Captain's bars pinned to them. I discreetly called him to my position. Told him to hand me the cover. I calmly unpinned the bars and put them in my pocket and returned his ball cap. I ordered him to report to the Company 1st Sgt on Monday with his SSgt at 0630 and give a full explanation of what just happened.
At 0633 on Monday, the only thing I heard was "You did what?!
At 0645, the 1st Sgt brought me a cup of coffee (not something I expected him to do, or that he usually did). He smiled and said "the situation is well in hand sir". He asked if he could have a seat, I said sure. We silently enjoyed our coffee and the beautiful morning. Then we stepped off together to take morning formation. I never got any report of what happened. It was about three weeks before the Sgt could look me in the eyes.
At 0633 on Monday, the only thing I heard was "You did what?!
At 0645, the 1st Sgt brought me a cup of coffee (not something I expected him to do, or that he usually did). He smiled and said "the situation is well in hand sir". He asked if he could have a seat, I said sure. We silently enjoyed our coffee and the beautiful morning. Then we stepped off together to take morning formation. I never got any report of what happened. It was about three weeks before the Sgt could look me in the eyes.
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CSM David Heidke
The 1SG was showing you that he appreciated the professional and courteous way you handled the situation and that he had it. Great job, Sir.
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Sgt Lincoln Harris
Well done. That is however totally different from two LCpl's joking around while making the hours pass as they rib each other w/ jokes. As long as no one is holding themselves out to be a higher rank than they actually are, it's harmless imho.
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Um, one of the oddest Qs I've ever seen on RP. I wish this was all I worried about my Tomahawks doing over the weekend. I hope that's their version of living resilience and goal setting!
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If this is the worst issue you have in your unit, sit back, relax and have a beer, TR things are well in hand. Remember they're 18-20 year old kids with a job that can get them killed. Relax and look for real issues.
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I have a little different take on this. I suspect they were just screwing around and didn't think anyone would overhear them. If that's the case, I don't think they were being disrespectful at all, just being young troops doing what they do. I would still approach them and tell them someone (you) did overhear them and they need to be careful even when they're just screwing around, because it could be taken as disrespectful, and you're sure there are more than a handful of Sergeants Major that might be pretty offended by it. At that point, it would be more than just a friendly word of advice! I'd just leave it at that.
If you did think there was an intent to be disrespectful and it wasn't just messing around, I would jack them up. I would explain to them the problem - not about the regulations or impersonating or anything like that, but simply about being disrespectful of a senior NCO. If they were in my chain of command, I would probably have them do some research on the CSM and SGM ranks, when they came into being, why they came into being, what their responsibilities are, at what levels of command they serve, how they are promoted, things like that. I'd have them give a presentation to the rest of the Soldiers in the Company or at least Platoon on what they found, and address the respect and courtesies owed to SGM and CSM by Soldiers junior to them. If they aren't in your chain of command, I'd go to my PSG or 1SG and ask them to accompany me to the Soldiers' PSG or 1SG to discuss the incident with them.
If you did think there was an intent to be disrespectful and it wasn't just messing around, I would jack them up. I would explain to them the problem - not about the regulations or impersonating or anything like that, but simply about being disrespectful of a senior NCO. If they were in my chain of command, I would probably have them do some research on the CSM and SGM ranks, when they came into being, why they came into being, what their responsibilities are, at what levels of command they serve, how they are promoted, things like that. I'd have them give a presentation to the rest of the Soldiers in the Company or at least Platoon on what they found, and address the respect and courtesies owed to SGM and CSM by Soldiers junior to them. If they aren't in your chain of command, I'd go to my PSG or 1SG and ask them to accompany me to the Soldiers' PSG or 1SG to discuss the incident with them.
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MSG (Join to see)
my x wife used to call me sgm, dont know how to say this but intent means alot, so if it was meant as disrespect deal with it, otherwise let the sm know this remark is disrespectfull and dont do it again
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Egad! The Specialist Mafia has their own rank structure?!
I guess my response would be to order a hit.
Best way to do that is promote them to Sergeant.
I guess my response would be to order a hit.
Best way to do that is promote them to Sergeant.
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1LT William Clardy
That's too rewarding, 1SG (Join to see).
Make them corporals and avoid the pay raise (and the wait)!
Make them corporals and avoid the pay raise (and the wait)!
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