Posted on Oct 23, 2015
What is the purpose of the "no profanity" policy in WLC?
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What is it that the cadre and policy makers in NCOES schools think they are accomplishing by suppressing 240 years of culture. Secondly, I don't know of anyone who after the school was like "oh I better not cuss now I'm a warrior leader"
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About the time I was in basic, Linden Johnson outlawed cussing - screwed up some great Jody calls.
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There is a standing order from General George Washington that states as a soldier and a professional you should refrain from using profanity in and out of uniform. It gives the wrong image not only of yourself but also of the ARMY and America.
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Sergeant Sharpe - when I went through the NCO Academy 40 something years ago (which later became PNCOC) there was no rule against profanity. It just wasn't used, either by students or cadre. This continued through ANCOC and First Sergeant's School. There is no need for profanity in speech or writing, other than to shock or surprise. Tone of voice and an expanded vocabulary will do the same, without shocking or insulting others. Good luck to you in your career, and try to keep those unnecessary profanities out of your speech.
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A FEW PEOPLE COMMENT THAT PROFANITY IS UN PROFESSIONAL AND IT IS IN THE BUSINESS WORLD BUT ON THE BATTLEFIELD THATS ANOTHER STORY JUST A REMINDER ONE OF OUR NATIONS GREATEST LEADERS GEN PATTON WAS KNOWN TO THROW THE F BOMB QUITE OFTEN I BELIEVE IT WAS PROBABLY DUE TO HIS INTENSITY AND A MOTIVATIONAL TOOL MY POINT BEING THAT THROWING AROUND THE F BOMB NOW AND THEN IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING UNLESS YOUR WORKING WITH A SUITE AND TIE IN A MANHATTAN OFFICE JUST MY TAKE ON IT
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SSG Katherine Likely
Patten had a squeaky voice and if he didn't cuss no one would have taken him seriously.
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I can't speak for current policy but personally I believe it may have something to do with professionalism. I grew up a "Navy Brat" , raised by a WWII original "Bad Ass" UDT/SEAL. Don't ever remember my father dropping the F bomb in front of my mom and/or brothers and sister. I served 20 plus years and never felt I had to use four letter words to express myself and/or get the message across in any situation. If one chooses to "cuss" I only ask they not do so in front of my wife, daughters and grandchildren. There is a time and a place, be smart, be professional, and be courteous.
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As a Senior NCOES Instructor in the late 1980s, I taught the NCOs that it was unprofessional to swear or use derogatory remarks as a Non-Commissioned Officer. As a student, you are not in your unit, but in student status. You can only be evaluated as a student by the artificial stresses placed on you to see how you react. It takes discipline and moral courage to control your tongue. In the old days, NCOs were not professional. Once NCOES was established, a whole new ballgame. You need to review the Creed of the Non-Commissioned Officer. I personally taught 103 Cycles of PLDC in addition to BNCOC and ANCOC. I trained and "Murder Boarded" many Instructors as well. Thus you need to check your cussing at the door and exercise discipline and professionalism. Cussing only cheapens your conduct and deportment.
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I was once told that if you are a person who uses colorful language all the time ie..the F word.
It losses it's EFFECTIVENESS. However, a well place F in a conversation can be very EFFECTIVE.
It losses it's EFFECTIVENESS. However, a well place F in a conversation can be very EFFECTIVE.
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