Posted on Feb 14, 2018
CSM Charles Hayden
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Beyond my utter shock and dismay at this latest school shooting, I ask myself why? Who failed “us”. why?

Do we need a ‘police state’ to moniter and report eveyone with an personality abberation?

Do too many of our citizens choose to look the ‘other way”’ rather than accept the responsibilty of reporting “deranged members of society”?

At age 12, in 1945, I was cleared to ‘fire at will’ on the farm. I possessed a 22 caliber rifle and the 410 shotgun arrived soon after.

Positive action is needed, your thoughts?
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PVT Raymond Lopez
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I have spent my whole life since I was seventeen years old in the military and law enforcement and I have lost count of the number of times I sworn an Oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic I like to thank you because it is because of
all idiots that I have had to deal with I have two very nice pensions for my Golden Years What no one realizes is that . In 1968 a law called the Omnibus Safe Streets and Crime Control Act of 1968 also known as The Gun Control Act of 1968, Public Law 90-618 purpose “Sec. 101. andin 1969 the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York sitting in Manhattan, New York County held that the law was unconstitutional because it was self- incriminatory for convicted felons because the American Civil Liberties Union appealed it. THAT DECISION HAS NEVER BEEN APPEALED AND ONLY STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MAY ARREST UNDER STATE LAW! SURPRISE!!!!!
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MAJ Attorney
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The shooter is 100% responsible. Whether he is legally considered competent and legally responsible is one thing, but he is 100% morally responsible.

Do we need a police state, god no. There will always be a few people on the edges of the bell curve, but that idea goes so contrary to everything in the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, etc.

Do people choose to look the other way, or just not know their neighbors? Absolutely. I think that right there is a huge urban/rural divide. If you look at the FBI crime statistics, the safest thing you can do is more to a town of 25,000 people or less. There is basically statistically zero violent crime. Why? I think there is something to be said for the small town stereotype of being in your neighbor's business and also looking out for your neighbors.

What action is needed? We, society and especially the media, have created a self-fulfilling prophecy. We give these shooters all kinds of attention for their crimes, and they all have mental / emotional issues where they'd rather have negative attention that no attention at all. It's become the go-to thing for violent white teenage males. The MI officer in me says hardening of targets is an easy first step. You can't catch 100% of the people prior to the crime, this isn't Minority Report, so you make it harder to succeed. Fenced grounds, fewer access points, vehicle barricades, metal detectors. If we prevent enough incidents, it won't be a go-to thing and it will hopefully recede into history.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I think we are finding out the unregulated approach to guns is wrong.
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PO1 Don Gulizia
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I don’t’ think there is necessarily one “who” or one "why." I think there are a combination of factors for each tragedy and no two are alike. Parents fault in one case isn’t the case in another. Meds, video games, bullying, religion/lack of religion, gun laws/policies, mental health, legal guns, illegal guns, the media…all might play a part in different events, but not one component can be blamed for every event. Even the “shooter” might not be totally to blame in every circumstance. (That’s why we have competency hearings and the insanity defense.) Can we find common ground and make common sense changes?…sure. But in today’s political climate, I doubt it. Hell, I don’t even think we know which problem we want to solve. Do we want to end/limit gun violence or just limit “mass shootings?” Do we want to limit/end the +/- 15,000 gun homicides a year or just the 2-3% of mass shooting deaths? It’s easy to say the sky is falling, but until we find out if it’s mainly acorns or asteroids that is hitting us in the head, we can’t change anything.
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PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM
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There is plenty of blame to go around. This was a set of domino's that was started a while back when the School officials and the Sherriff agreed not to bring charges on those students who got into trouble to make the School District look better so they could get more federal funds. The Sherriff himself was a real piece of work who should have been removed long ago. What Commander refuses to take responsibility for the people under his command? The Commanding Officer if any Military Base or any SHip is responsible for the actions of every person assigned to their command. You do not shirk that responsibility like he did. And giving the order to stand down? Who does he think he is?? Hillary Clinton? The State and Federal legislature have armed guards and metal detectors for access to their chambers. All these Snowflakes who are crying about doing away with all types of guns have armed body guards. CNN MSNBC CBS all have Armed Guards at their Broadcast offices at New Your, Los Angeles and every other major City. There are Armed Guards at MLB, NFL NBA Games Even some of these Mega Churches have Armed Guards. but probably 99% of our schools are left unprotected... Am I the only one who sees a problem here?

Now if a person goes out and drinks all night long and then drives home with a BAL of 11.3. Turns down the wrong side of the road and runs head on into another car and kills the family in the other car. Do people blame the Wild Turkey and Johnny Walker he drank all night or the Ford he used? NO they blame the drunk driver.
If someone goes to McDonalds and eats 10 Double Quarter pounder with Cheese and Fries with a large Chocolate Shake every day for a month and then dies of a massive heart attack do people blame McDonalds? No It was that person's fault. He did it himself.
A mentally ill person who has had numerous instances of harming animals, threatening his foster parents, friends and threats to shoot up his school goes out gets a gun and even though there is a order that he cannot return to the school that he graduated from years past and cannot bring a book bag to. Comes back into the school and shoots it up killing and hurting teachers and students. The GUN is blamed.
What is the problem here?? The Problem is that the AR-10 and the AR-15 have been around since the 1950's but now the Democrats are in deep kimchee and they need something to detract the attention away from all the scandals they are involved in and the fact that Soretoro cold possibly be brought up on Treason charges Clinton could be brought up on Sedition charges along with Rice, and Florida Representative Washingmachine Schultz.

We need GOD back in our schools and the NEA and all other socialism out. I can promise you that there was a LOT of praying in that school no matter what the NEA or the ACLU or the Florida Legislature or the Broward County School Board had to say.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
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What part of our society is responsible for the killing? How is this a question? The killer is responsible for the killing.
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SSG Edward Tilton
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You can't blame the shooter, he is a nut job incapable of making an intelligent decision. Shooting school children or waving his private parts, he is not in control. People say, YEAH BUT. No Yeah Butts about it. I worked at a VA where Vets checked in but never checked out. You always got their attention to ensure they were on our planet. There is NO CURE, so take preventive action
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SFC James William Bolt   [ 40 Yards ]
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THE SHOOTER IS THE ONE THAT KILL THOSE PEOPLE AND HE ALONE DID THE ACT AND NO ONE BUT HIM PLAN AND CARRY OUT THE DEED. THE BLAME REST ON HIM ALONE. SIGN 40 YARDS
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SSG Edward Tilton
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I think "Live Fire" Drills would help improve readiness, especially in the lower grades and pre schools. The fact is there are a lot of nut jobs armed to the teeth out there
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