What suggestions do you have for renaming DoD installations honoring Confederate officers?

Total waste of tax dollars, all the signage, stationary, ect. well over a couple million dollars for some feel good reaction!

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COL (Join to see) - Its repairing NOTHING!

It cannot be repaired, and we cannot judge warriors of yesteryear on some new criteria made more than a hundred years after their time.

I think Slavery was heinous- My family wasn't even here when it went on.

When I was birthed in 1960- My Grandma was STILL indentured and worked for Dem elites in Massachusetts.

We've known forever that we need to learn from the past---- why one would want to hide such a graphic proof of the past is beyond me.

When the morons decided to do this- it was my belief that things should stay right where they were... BUT the other side of the story should have been put in BOLD RED TYPE on a large sign beside it- preferrable with pictures, names etc to make it personal.

Let's teach the positives and negatives about these people- because there are positives though the negatives outweigh it by today's standards.

Unfortunately, the language that it is "changing history" is really a false narrative. Those posts were primarily named well after the Civil War. The statues of some of these Confederate generals are there because of the Daughters of the Confederacy, who pushed the Lost Cause narrative. Their naming was mostly based on political considerations. The men for whom these posts were named were traitors to the US. They led battles that killed US soldiers. I'm not suggesting that they be erased--we should always understand traitors and insurrectionists--but naming a military installation after them seems like it's pandering to a political group for political expediency. There's a difference between venerating and remembering. I would be for renaming all of the posts after Medal of Honor recipients.

That's why I didn't trust our previous President. He had a 50-year career of lies.

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However, did you know it was named after a Confederate? Were you aware of Bragg's earned a reputation for incompetence, for wantonly shooting his own soldiers, and for losing battles? Why should this nation honor a losing side in a Civil War? We are ONE NATION. We have coddled the Confederates long enough. They lost. They should not be honored any longer.

Nah, dude. It will always be a Mess Hall.

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While I dont agree with trying to change history by changing the name of long standing bases, changing them to MOH names would be an acceptable change.

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Great recommendation...you should have had a chair at that re-naming table!

Good recommendations. I'd offer Ft Davis for Col (Ret) Parris Davis, recent MOH winner and former Commander of 10th SFG(A) when I was there.

Good Ideas, thr trouble is (and a good trouble to have) is there are many jeroic and good men and women to honor with a fort or installation. For Ft. Benning, why not Rodgeway or Gavin ? MacArthur or Roosevelt. It may be sacrilege, but why not the place name. Interesting g they tried to rename Ft. Lee, NJ. Then it was pointed out it was named long before R.E. Lee was famous. The answer? "It doesn't matter the optics are bad". Luckily saner people prevailed.

John Gordon was a staunch supporter of the rights of former slaves in the Reconstruction South, as well as a tireless advocate for wounded veterans on both sides.

1SG Bernhard Mattulat - Sadly thats what it was. Appease the locals so as to rebuild the country as quickly as possible. North did not get the big victory it talks of. South was more than happy/able/willing to engage in guerilla warfare. War needed to end NOW by whatever means. If that involved a statue here or there, then so be it.

Then - remember that Lincoln is the first Republican. He was the third party candidate. Now he's dead and there's a lot of politicians wanting to go back to the way it was before the election. Trust me - they are worried about more important things than a statue. Executions for treason would likewise, be an idea that got quashed. What was done was not the best but sadly, it was done with the best tools available at the time. Always difficult to look at 1860's events with 2023 eyes.

1SG Bernhard Mattulat - Not at all First Sergeant. I am in agreement that MoH winners should be honored and if the intent was to do so, For example to rename Fort Benning to Fort Moore to honor General Moore because of General Moore's accomplishments, then by all means do so.
The problem is that the entire movement to rename the forts was begun by liberal politicians in search of a means to pander to people who, like the politicians in question, had not a clue who the individuals the bases were named after were, nor what they did or did not do. The problem I have is with the motives and motivation of those who shoved the changes down the throats of the DoD.
To rename a Fort to honor a true hero is commendable, but to rename a fort, incurring the unnecessary costs and burden on both the military and the civilian communities they occupy, so that politicians like Senator Elizabeth Warren can bank the political capital is asinine and foolish, as well as a misuse of taxpayer's funds.
Personally, I feel that to rename Fort Bragg is to dishonor the tens of thousands of us that served there. I served a decade and a half at FORT BRAGG. I have never been to Fort Liberty. "Fort Liberty" is not in the soldier's Lexicon. Say I was at Bragg, and everyone knows exactly where. "Bragg" is synonymous with the best of the Army and is in common use, even to those that have no idea just how truly loathsome and what a terrible officer Braxton Bragg was. No one ever heard of Braxton Bragg until this all came up and they looked him up. Had this not come up, Braxton Bragg would have remained in historical obscurity where he belonged, and "Bragg" would still be my home.

People seem to forget why the South seceded and slavery was only a small part of the reason. The voting population in the South was much smaller consequently they had less representation in Congress. The Mills in the North wanted to cash in on the South's agrarian success and they lobbied Congress to enact laws that essentially forced the Southern States to sell their cotton to them at cut-rate prices at a time when demand for cotton was high in Europe and the Europeans were willing to pay a higher price for it. The Southern States wanted to export their cotton to Europe but were prevented from doing so by Congress. They bitterly complained but their voices fell on deaf ears. The Northern States used their population advantage to steamroll their agenda through Congress despite the objections of the Southern States. Tired of having their voice ignored, the Southern States got together and seceded from the Union (which was their Constitutional Right) to form a Confederate government that would listen to them and represent their interests.

Lincoln campaigned on the anti-Slavery platform because he knew it would get him votes. Trends in America followed trends in Europe and slavery had been abandoned in Europe < not because the Europeans had a twinge of conscience and change of heart; rather, it was the advent of the Industrial Revolution that convinced them to abandon the practice. They discovered it was more economically feasible to fuel and oil machines than it was to house, clothe, and feed slaves. It was already on the way out in America before the Civil War even started. It was declining in the North due to the North's industrial base, but the South, which was heavily agrarian-based, still relied on slaves to work the fields. At the outset of the Civil War, four of the Union States were slave states. During the War, Lincoln issued his Emancipation Proclamation. Note that Lincoln only freed the slaves in the South. He kept the slaves in the North enslaved because he needed every advantage to win the war. Lincoln was not the most popular President at the time because he was shredding the Constitution and consolidating power in the Federal government which went against the Founding Fathers' vision. They distrusted a strong federalized government and intentionally concentrated the fulcrum of power at the State level.

In not allowing the Southern States to secede, Lincoln embroiled the nation in a Civil War.
Lincoln was not a fan of the slaves and had planned to deport the slaves to the Caribbean, South America, and back to Africa after he concluded the Civil War. He felt it would be problematic trying to integrate former slaves into the society that enslaved them. Lincoln was stopped from deporting all blacks by an assassin's bullet. History remembers Lincoln a bit more kindly than it should (due to his assassination), and his Federalist legacy lives on. Incidentally, the last State to formally give up slavery was Delaware, in 1901.

We are experiencing today the problems associated when you have a Federal government dictating policy to the States and assuming responsibilities that the Constitution did not give it. Our Founding purposely limited the scope of the Federal Gov't and any powers not specifically enumerated by the Constitution as belonging to the Federal Government reside with the States. Education, Marriage, Healthcare... < These are all State issues according to the Constitution. Trump wants to make Abortion a State issue and he is correct. It IS a State issue!

Well said.

With that said, I wouldn't hold my breath.

(Sigh.)

Itis not about rewriting it. Its about righting a wrong. Learn the difference. If you think that it is ok to have traitors as names of FORTS in the Union then you have no idea what your service meant to this country!!

Apparently, Suspended Profile is clueless and has no idea what service to the country means...

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Why are they going woke? Milley.

The alphabet cult is taking control.
Gay speaker of the house
Queer secretary of health Adm Levine?
Buttatag Secretary of Transportation........
Then there is Milly and who knows

The problems we're seeing with the military is because Congress believes it should be a social experiment. They prioritized social experimentation over combat readiness and mission success. Serving in the military is not a right; it is a privilege. Our job as citizens is to provide ourselves with a Congress that will honor the oaths of office they swore to uphold and promptly forgot about. We have a Congress that tolerates folks who sleep with spies and sell this country out to hostile foreign special interests, launder taxpayer money that they gave away in foreign aid back to themselves, didn't claim income on their taxes, refuse to testify, lie under oath, destroy subpoenaed evidence, misrepresented their background and qualifications for office to the electorate, weaponized the government against our own citizens and violated their constitutional rights, etc. and believe that they do not have to answer for their criminal conduct to the people?!! They've been getting away with it for years and have established a very bad precedent -- because nobody cared. Many in Congress do not live up to UCMJ standards yet they are in charge of our military. What gives?

Our job as citizens is to be the term limits for the crooks in Congress and to hold them accountable for what they did and didn't do as our representatives. General Milley was selected not because he was the most qualified but because he would do anything he was told without question. The withdrawal of our troops in Afghanistan has Obama's fingerprints all over it and Gen Milley said, "Aye aye, three bags full, whatever you say Congress!" He was woke and had no spine. He should have put his food down and reminded Congress what would happen if he carried out those orders. It may have led to his dismissal but History would remember him as they will Gen Flynn as a man who took heat for doing the right thing.

SSG (Join to see) - They were TRAITORS TO THIS COUNTRY!! What do you not get about thaT? Is your brain so small or too decrepit that you can't understand the meaning of that word TRAITOR!! You are too small-minded and too ignorant to realize why they are changing the names of these FORTS. If people like you were in charge of this country we would still be back in the 1900s because you are too clueless to know the meaning of the word progress FOOL.

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Any new bases should be named after CMH recipients, If there are name changes -the same. I would not mind if all installations (and Ships) were named after US Heros. They disserve the honor. As do all who displayed valor in combat. Some of you are on this page as well. I am honored to be in their presence. I have had the honor of shaking the hands a of a few CMH recipients. Also of calling some heroes friends (Silver Star, Bronze Star etc).

MOH not CMH...js

That is the most idiotic comment. History is not being erase fool. It is HISTORY!!

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