Posted on Apr 22, 2016
What type of topics should be off-limits in the work place?
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I don't think any topic should have to be arbitrarily off-limits, but with that said, a workplace should be professional, respectful, and nondiscriminatory. If you have people in your workplace that cannot do that, then they are the problem, not the conversation topics. While I was in the military I had many, many great political and religious discussions with coworkers, many of whom I had very clear differences. But we knew where the boundaries were, and respected each other. That is the key. Instead of not talking, learn how to be respectful of other's opinions.
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SrA Edward Vong
MSgt Michael Smith
I wish I had that professionalism when I was serving. Someone in leadership once announced in the truck "if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your savior, get the f*ck out of the truck". It was intentional directed to at least two of us. I was somewhat offended, but not to the point where I felt like I had to do something about it. Didn't wanna be "that guy".
CW3 Stephen Bacon
I wish I had that professionalism when I was serving. Someone in leadership once announced in the truck "if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your savior, get the f*ck out of the truck". It was intentional directed to at least two of us. I was somewhat offended, but not to the point where I felt like I had to do something about it. Didn't wanna be "that guy".
CW3 Stephen Bacon
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CW3 Stephen Bacon
Eddie: That is not a workplace conversation. That's just some @$$hole showing his @$$..... and never be afraid to be "That Guy".... what are they gonna do, take your birthday away?
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MSgt John McGowan
MSgt Work place talk was pretty close to the same in the military and civilian work place. Most any subject could be talked about, but I believe I had greater freedom at the civilian job. In the military you have to be more careful with words. As you climb in rank even more careful. At my civilian job we were all about skill levels. But one thing I could never get over is the f bomb in a mixed crowd. Still don't like it.
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SGT Anthony Rossi
Great answer! If we don't discuss sensitive topics with each other how can we expect to grow as a citizenry. I don't simply want to talk to only people who agree with me... You have to be willing to challenge your positions if your genuine in your beliefs.
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You question illustrates exactly what is wrong with America at present. Utter and complete fear of offending someone or being non-PC. If I didn't wish to participate in a conversation, I walk away. Personally Chief, if you started talking about BMO's and vehicles, I would walk away. As I am sure if I was talking about the benefits of Harley's Vs. Indians, you'd probably walk away....... Politics, religion and other high-charged conversations have their place, it's the people who cannot handle them or not being able to converse with someone of a differing opinion are the problem. The subjects themselves are no different that you or I talking about the benefits of colonoscopy's or pap smears. It boils down to the people having the conversation and whether or not they are able to conduct themselves appropriately.
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SrA Edward Vong
CW3 Stephen Bacon
I feel the topic isn't the problem, it's how the topic is handled. I personally don't believe politics and religion SHOULD be discussed in the workplace to avoid conflict, but if there are a group of mature individuals who can handle it, why not?
I'll tag you on something that happened to use while we served.
I feel the topic isn't the problem, it's how the topic is handled. I personally don't believe politics and religion SHOULD be discussed in the workplace to avoid conflict, but if there are a group of mature individuals who can handle it, why not?
I'll tag you on something that happened to use while we served.
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CW3 Stephen Bacon
SrA Edward Vong - What I meant was Chief Hayes shouldn't have had to pose the question at all. As many have pointed out, far more eloquently than me, just because "Negative Nancy" doesn't like the topic or reacts in a hostile way, doesn't mean that it should be taboo to other, mature adults who know how to be respectful and converse intelligently.
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SrA Edward Vong
CW3 Stephen Bacon
When it comes down to it, as long as the information is kept clean and respectful, there should be no issue. It's when things get out of hand.
When it comes down to it, as long as the information is kept clean and respectful, there should be no issue. It's when things get out of hand.
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If you really want to be safe, the only thing you should be talking about at the workplace is work.
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SGT Aaron Atwood
With that comes the tradeoff that one doesn't need to talk shop outside of the workplace among one's coworkers. It surprises me how many folks don't realize that.
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I would highly recommend that you not talk about the boss's incompetence.
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CW3 Stephen Bacon
CMSgt Virgil Horsley - LOL! One of my soldier's once dated the BDE CDR's daughter. Holy Crap! It was like having to be a dad!
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I'll go with the three I mentioned below, in general.
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/there-are-three-topics-you-generally-shouldn-t-discuss-at-work-politics-religion-and-finances-has-that-changed
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/there-are-three-topics-you-generally-shouldn-t-discuss-at-work-politics-religion-and-finances-has-that-changed
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The military isn't a workplace, it's a lifestyle and a family. If you can't have a discussion about anything with a family member, leave the room. If you're working together and not talking about work, change the subject. Saying something is off limits goes against (what I consider) the professionalism of service members to have educated conversation about controversial or fun topics.
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I find it ironic that for an all inclusive society, we fear speaking openly about things. I believe that all topics should have open dialogue, but with decorum. When shouting, anger, and threats get involved, it never turns out good.
I have seen an instance where a person asked about the "Ferguson riots," trying to understand the W5H (who, what when, etc). He was immediately derided for being white privileged, racist, and had an EO complaint filed against him. It took a more level headed person, someone who was from there, to show him the reason, explain the situation in full, and inform him of the purpose, to which helped him understand. Prior to that, he refused to work with anyone, let alone help, due to fear of labels and actions.
I can say, I have been blessed in that many I have worked with are very intelligent, so talks about all things occur. We have unwritten rules, whereby if something upsets or bothers, please politely inform others. Often what offends one, does not offend another. I find in many of these conversations a presentation of information, of which helps me to learn, understand, and at times, have a greater appreciation for our diversity. While I may not agree with x, y, or z, does not mean that I am not open to learning. While one may not change my opinion, they do help to show me a different side of things I may not have thought of or considered.
With that said, be courteous of others when approaching topics that may be touchy. Know the people you are speaking to, do not be afraid to ask for assistance in understanding, explain why you do not understand, maintain a level head, and know that we all will have to agree to disagree at times. This is what makes our military great, the differences we bring, yet the ability to work together.
Vaya con dios, mi amigos.
I have seen an instance where a person asked about the "Ferguson riots," trying to understand the W5H (who, what when, etc). He was immediately derided for being white privileged, racist, and had an EO complaint filed against him. It took a more level headed person, someone who was from there, to show him the reason, explain the situation in full, and inform him of the purpose, to which helped him understand. Prior to that, he refused to work with anyone, let alone help, due to fear of labels and actions.
I can say, I have been blessed in that many I have worked with are very intelligent, so talks about all things occur. We have unwritten rules, whereby if something upsets or bothers, please politely inform others. Often what offends one, does not offend another. I find in many of these conversations a presentation of information, of which helps me to learn, understand, and at times, have a greater appreciation for our diversity. While I may not agree with x, y, or z, does not mean that I am not open to learning. While one may not change my opinion, they do help to show me a different side of things I may not have thought of or considered.
With that said, be courteous of others when approaching topics that may be touchy. Know the people you are speaking to, do not be afraid to ask for assistance in understanding, explain why you do not understand, maintain a level head, and know that we all will have to agree to disagree at times. This is what makes our military great, the differences we bring, yet the ability to work together.
Vaya con dios, mi amigos.
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Nothing should be off limits, but potentially touchy subjects should wait until one knows their coworkers more. I didn't open up about a lot of things with my coworkers until I got to know them better.
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Nothing should be of limits. He is your family and if you can't trust them then you shouldn't be talking about it or doing it!
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There was once this concept-I believe they called it "Freedom". It's always run afoul of that other concept...the one they call "Profit". If your discussions intrude on "profit", expect to have "freedom" limited.
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Anything political, gun-based, abortion, equality, workload, drugs....the list goes on but I won't keep going. Reason I put this is because one way or the other (and some aren't like this) someone will try and 1UP your comment, take it out of context, get too EMOTIONAL about what you are talking about. I understand having a passion for something and that's fine to talk about but don't cry, scream, point fingers, use complicated words even they don't understand, or only have a portion of the actual story. I can't count the amount of times I've seen someone over-react on a topic and it could be as simple as asking how their day was.
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We were told as aircrew moving passengers never discuss politics religion we still did
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I don't think anything should be off limits. I work in a civilian heavy organization that has a lot of work place differeces than that of a regular unit. The Soldiers whom i work with and some of the civilians regularly engage in conversations consisting of different topics. But at all times we are professional and considerate of others in the work place. As long as there aren't any complaints from others outside of the discussion i see no issues with whatever the topic of the day is.
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The PC shit ball continues to grow ever bigger as it rolls down the mountain called "Higher Education". Using my GI bill to attend college here in Northern Alabama you would be amazed at the topics and words that one must avoid as to not "trigger" someone and melt their little individual snowflake heart. This social experiment of limiting speech and giving words more power than they have is a total violation of basic free speech. Even the idea that we need to establish rules concerning what topics should be forbidden in the workplace is (**trigger warning!**) mind-blowing!
So ridiculous and deserves total resistance.
So ridiculous and deserves total resistance.
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In principle, no subject should be off-limits. However, because many of us work closely in teams, it isn't always possible - or appropriate - to just walk away from a conversation and leave our opinions at the DFAC, dorms, or barracks. Yes, in the military those places should be considered part of the work place, especially on active duty.
Some subjects are inherently fraught, and as leaders and professionals we should be mindful of how personal differences might affect morale and mission accomplishment. Acrimonious remarks made in the heat of the moment erode trust, undermining unit cohesion and potentially leading to performance problems. In some environments this can be downright dangerous. Moreover, remarks leading to legitimate EO or EEO complaints can be costly, both in financial terms (units are directly responsible for paying costs associated with processing claims having merit) and human resources.
Bottom line: Regardless of subject, workplace conversations should, at the very least, remain respectful. Keep a cool head and remember that, while differences of opinion are expected and inevitable, we do share a common purpose and not only earned the privilege of wearing the uniform, but must keep earning it every day.
Some subjects are inherently fraught, and as leaders and professionals we should be mindful of how personal differences might affect morale and mission accomplishment. Acrimonious remarks made in the heat of the moment erode trust, undermining unit cohesion and potentially leading to performance problems. In some environments this can be downright dangerous. Moreover, remarks leading to legitimate EO or EEO complaints can be costly, both in financial terms (units are directly responsible for paying costs associated with processing claims having merit) and human resources.
Bottom line: Regardless of subject, workplace conversations should, at the very least, remain respectful. Keep a cool head and remember that, while differences of opinion are expected and inevitable, we do share a common purpose and not only earned the privilege of wearing the uniform, but must keep earning it every day.
I personally feel that no topic should be off limits. We are adults and if people feel uncomfortable with a topic - either don't discuss it or exit stage left. As Soldiers, Adults, and Productive members of society, you can't avoid everything that my be "sensitive" or "potentially hurt our feelings". Its ridiculous and I am personally utterly tired of the Political Correctness that has plagued our Military.
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