Posted on Mar 11, 2016
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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This question is for our Vietnam era Veterans here on RallyPoint. Share with us what your feelings were when you first received and opened your draft notice.

The Comments Here are Historical and Awesome!

What was your stance on the war? Explain your opinion

Did your parents put ideas into your head about the war that you didn't nessisarly believe in?
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CMDCM John F. "Doc" Bradshaw
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I joined at 18, after High School and one Semester at University of Alabama! (January-1969) Went to Balboa Naval Hospital Corps School January 1970. One of my dream sheet requests was Vietnam! They sent me to Naval Hospital Naples Italy instead for ward duty!!! This was a political Action or Conflict. Was a very controversial time. Veterans did their jobs and Duty for our Nation just to be cussed and spit on in Airports and Public Places!!! We Proudly Serve inspite of our Our Government and Political Leaders Actions to make it impossible to Win but cost so many unnecessary Lives with seneless Rules of Engagements and taking same places over and over again because of ordered withdrawals. No, my Parents or anyone else put things in my mind. I was a Patriot and Am Still. I'd serve again if I could!!!! John B
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Was not drafted, too young at the time. Joined in '76.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth Volunteered in 1975 and never looked back! Thanks for your service!
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SrA John Monette
SrA John Monette
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obviously you didn't read the question Cowboy!!! that's Army training for you!!!! LOL
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SPC Jeffrey Swanson
SPC Jeffrey Swanson
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Right on Cowboy
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Sgt Robert Hellyer
Sgt Robert Hellyer
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SrA John Monette - I THINK he was just rubbing it in.............
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MAJ Special Forces Officer
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I was a RAT at VMI in 1967. My brother had a medical discharge from the USCG Academy because a steel pin was in his leg. He was working in a defense industry (building nuclear subs) protected from the draft (IID??), when he got a waiver (with help from a VA Senator) to enlist in the Warrant officer flight program (2 tours, DFC, 35 AMs, ARCOM w/V, VnCG). I went from economics major-bank industry employee to hard corps history major patriot, when friends (HS & VMI) were killed in VN. I had spent last semester of HS in Taiwan, where the Red Chinese Army was greatly feared and invasion was threatened.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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MAJ (Join to see) Thanks for sharing your experience and thanks for your service!
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Hey, I was a junior at VPI in 67. Thanks for story.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Well, I had already decided to enlist at that point so I was just curious about the draft registration process COL Mikel J. Burroughs. It was October 1974 and I had wanted to be a soldier since I was young. I supported the war in southeast Asia which put me at odds with my family. My parents had survived London and England during the blitz and my father lost his uncle and aunt to a German bomb so they were generally opposed to war.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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LTC Stephen F. It had ended already when I volunteered in January of 1975. I supported the war and so did my father, so we were in sync!
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SSG Karl Fowler
SSG Karl Fowler
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I went in before my number came up
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LTC Edward Gronet
LTC Edward Gronet
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Had a student deferment, went ROTC, Had a decent Lottery number, received a Commission, stayed in until retirement.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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LTC Edward Gronet - LTC Ford by the way got His Commission from the USMA ,West Point so like You had prepared for His Military service. I had been in Army ROTC Myself but at a Military Academy, Bordentown Military Institute, Bordentown, NJ at the Prep school level. I spent 22 years in a USAF uniform. MY Dad was a WWII Navy Veteran and was recalled to active duty for Korea. He had eleven years service.
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SP5 Sam Hollis
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I got my first notice in 65, arrested for drag racing and got disqualified.
In Aug. 65 got the second notice to absolve me of all
wrong doings. Just report to the draft board for further instructions.
Never heard of Vietnam or anything about what was going on over
there.
Looking back I viewed it as you were called, it's your turn do it.
Ft Gordon, Ft Jackson,Ft Polk, and here I am in Vietnam.
The big red 1-2/16 ranger bat. Took over a squad after being in
country for a month.This was another learn as you go experience.
You got three stripes on your sleeve and all the headaches to go with
them.
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1LT Vance Titus
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Laughter. I was living outside the U.S. when I turned 18. I registered for the draft at the local U.S. embassy. Years later I received a letter from the draft board in Arizona where my parents moved to while I was in college in Washington. I was ordered to report to a specific location on a specific date. The funny part of this is that a couple of months earlier I had been commissioned a 2nd Lt in the Army. The draft board had a little trouble understanding that I was not going to report as they had ordered.
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CPO Bill Canada
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Was not drafted. Coming from a military family joining the military after graduation was a given. I joined the Navy as the other three recruiters were to busy thumb twiddling to talk to a kid who just walked through the door. The Navy recruiter asked me if he could help and I told him I needed a job. He came up with one that fit me like a glove and lasted lasted 20+ years.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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CPO Bill Canada That is awesome - thanks for your service Bill!
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SGT David D.
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I raised my right hand on Dec 24th 1980, I was 17 years and 3 months and 24 days old. I reported for active duty on the 9th of September 1981, 9 days after my 18th birthday.
Soooo I didn't bother to register for the draft,....... I really didn't see the point, I had already raised my Right hand a little over 8 months before. (Delayed Entry)
Fast forward to sometime in the spring of 1983. By this time I had been assigned to A Co. 8th CAB, 8th Inf. Div. (Mech.) in Bad Kreuznach, West Germany for about a year. I was called into the First Sergeant's office, he wants to know "why the F&%$ didn't you register for the draft", and "do you know you can be prosecuted for not registering PFC?"
So I told him what just told you guys......He was not amused.
Soooo after he chewed on me for a minute or two. He made sure I filled out the form, and forwarded it on to wherever such forms are forwarded to. I never heard another word about it.

I imagine he and the rest of the orderly room had quite the laugh about it after I left.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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Thanks for sharing your story and thanks for your service!
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Capt Lance Gallardo
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I would not know, because the country eliminated the peacetime draft in 1973, ten years before I volunteered for Service in the Marine Corps as an 18 year old College Freshman, and shipped off to Quantico, VA to OCS as an 18 year old kid in the PLC Program (Junior session) in the summer of 1983. My PEBD was January 13th, 1983 (when I took the oath of office as an Officer Candidate in the Platoon Leaders Course).

Richard Nixon ended the draft: "During the 1968 presidential election, Richard Nixon campaigned on a promise to end the draft. He had first become interested in the idea of an all-volunteer army during his time out of office, based upon a paper by Martin Anderson of Columbia University. Nixon also saw ending the draft as an effective way to undermine the anti-Vietnam war movement, since he believed affluent youths would stop protesting the war once their own probability of having to fight in it was gone.There was opposition to the all-volunteer notion from both the Department of Defense and Congress, so Nixon took no immediate action towards ending the draft early in his presidency.

Instead, the Gates Commission was formed, headed by Thomas S. Gates, Jr., a former Secretary of Defense in the Eisenhower administration. Gates initially opposed the all-volunteer army idea, but changed his mind during the course of the 15-member commission's work. The Gates Commission issued its report in February 1970, describing how adequate military strength could be maintained without having conscription. The existing draft law was expiring at the end of June 1971, but the Department of Defense and Nixon administration decided the draft needed to continue for at least some time. In February 1971, the administration requested of Congress a two-year extension of the draft, to June 1973." From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States
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Capt Lance Gallardo
Capt Lance Gallardo
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SPC Woody Bullard - I am not sure their would be riots like in Vietnam. Unlike in Vietnam, we were actually attacked from Afghanistan on 9/11. Also having drafted Americans serving today would ensure that the parents and family of thsoe loved ones were engaged and demanded accountability about why we are still in Afghanistan (to say nothing of Iraq).
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SPC Woody Bullard
SPC Woody Bullard
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Capt Lance Gallardo - I agree that with a draft more Americans would be
engaged in what was going on in the military. I believe it would take the U.S. Congress
to bring back the selective service draft. When I turned 18 I was required by law
to register with the selective service system as were all able bodied 18 year old males.
I'm not sure if 18 year old males still register with the SSS today as we did in the 60's.
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COL Thad Gembacz
COL Thad Gembacz
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I agree with your point that once all have a chance to have some skin in the game, they will pay more attention.
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Capt Lance Gallardo
Capt Lance Gallardo
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Thanks Sir. Good to see you here on RP.
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MAJ Glenn Lasater
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Edited 7 y ago
I was in tech school at Keesler AFB when I received a letter from home telling me that they received my draft notice. My First sergeant wrote the draft board a letter explaining that I was already on active duty with the Air Force.

I didn't think much about the war before I received orders and served a tour. Our reception when we returned to CONUS resulted in my developing a life long hatred of hippy protesters and draft dodgers. I believe that the circumstances of that war resulted in VN Vets forming a special bond above that of most vets. I still greet my brother VN vets with, "Welcome home, Brother."
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
3 y
As a fellow Vietnam Vetern, welcome Home Bother ! I spent 1968,first at Cam Rahn Bay for about three months then most of 1968 into 1969 at Da Nang Air Base Vietnam after they flew 20 of us there on a C130 for an in country PCS. .
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