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Navy's top enlisted leader is wrapping up job title review. Intent is to remove "man" from job titles, such as corpsman, to make them gender neutral. All Air Force members are referred to as "airmen" and three enlisted ranks include "man" in their title. What would you suggest as an alternative to "airman"? (You can have fun with this, but serious alternatives also are appreciated.)
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Edited 10 y ago
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Our nation is at war with one another, the political arena is like an asylum, homelessness and drug addiction is sky rocking, child abuse is out of control, 50% of marriages ending in divorce, need I go on?
And the @#$% PC commandos have our titles as a priority? Lets change Airmen to Air People, Air Heads or because the Air Force is air and space, let's call them Space Cadets.
Some people have their priorities OUT of WHACK.
I was an Airman & damn proud of it - to us it's gender neutral . Why not spend the funds on equipping them with what they REALLY need and it's sure as hell not a new title!
And the @#$% PC commandos have our titles as a priority? Lets change Airmen to Air People, Air Heads or because the Air Force is air and space, let's call them Space Cadets.
Some people have their priorities OUT of WHACK.
I was an Airman & damn proud of it - to us it's gender neutral . Why not spend the funds on equipping them with what they REALLY need and it's sure as hell not a new title!
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That's as dumb as asking, "What would be your gender-neutral alternative to referring to the human race as 'mankind'".
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And that's what they're paying the wonks to do? How about going about the business of defending our country instead of servicing a politically correct agenda? What a load of PC bullshit
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So by the "other branches" do you mean other terms in the Army Air Corps like "fighter jocks" would have to be called "fighter drawers"? or "loadmasters" would have to be called "loadcajolers"? "Supervisors" would now have to just be called "Visors"? "Superintendents" just "Intendents"? "Crewmembers" would be "Crewparts"? "Firemen" could be "Fire Extinguishers"? Things like that - is that what you were talking about?
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Sgt Margot Gall - Well, you didn't say I had to be serious about every response. I can't talk about the Air Force without making some jokes. And you have to admit, a couple of those were pretty funny, weren't they??
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I tease my USAF friends (of which I have many) mercilessly about stuff like that: Air Force camo pattern is a Holiday Inn bedspread, and more. Spa appointments is a good one I'll have to use with a good friend at SOCOM. She's retired USAF and a civilian now, but she'll still take a good spa recommendation! Too funny.
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CPT Dave Brest
Are the women really worried about this , or is it just a PC diversion. All,of the branches are suffering from cutbacks in personnel, equipment and training. Let's concentrate on accomplishing our mission in these difficult times.
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OK when does the nonsense end with all this political correctness? Seriously, why should the military bend to the will of the jagoffs who can't leave what has worked for so many yeas alone? The military is a fighting force, even if you do paperwork, you are one of our warriors. There are enough rankings and titles in each service to be confusing from branch to branch, why don't the PC police try and do something new, and concentrate on fighting and winning to get us out of the situation(s) we are in by lame ass politicians making a fortune of the spilled blood of our soldiers. It's all about money, and how they can pocket it, or waste it to justify their means. If we truly wanted "world peace", you have to Eliminate the problems in the way. Our government is corrupt and has been for decades, even possibly from the 1880's when we ended up with 2 sets of laws, Constitutional, and Corporate. We are never going to be a free country until we go back to our constitutional foundings
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LCpl Jim Pleace
You can ignore political correctness if you like but it has no place in the military. Sgt. Jarrett's comments below sum things up perfectly
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Goodby America hello Idiocracy cause that's where we are all going. Gender neutral stuff is retarded and so are the people pushing for it. If you have an innie use the women's if you have an outtie use the mans.
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So by reading the posts let's summarize the officers and enlisted alike answers to this important issue that the Navy's top enlisted leader is wrestling with. There is no need to change this term for our members. As SrA Nadine pointed out "man" is in woman. "Airman" similar to "Policeman", "Fireman:, and etc.does not mean it is a group of men but a group of people who have the same job duty. To save lives. Any moron who doesn't understand this should not be in the military. They just wouldn't have the common sense to survive in this elite group of brave men and women. Please make sure the General or whomever it may be gets this message loud and clear! It's time to deal with more serious issues than this.
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I'd say someone obviously needs to get his priorities in order. That the top enlisted man in the Fleet is worried about PC terms for job descriptions tells me a lot about him. I'm not surprised the AF is working on such though given it's historical concern for fluff and stuff in the public eye.
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Well, we could always go 'campy' 'Starship Trooper - like and call everyone a patriot. If these weak kneed liberals are complaining about 'gender-specific' words, then why not go the other way and remove all gender (because it is irrelevant for warfighters) and all service language and just call everyone 'patriot?'
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TSgt James Carson
It's just fine as it is. Aren't you all tired of this political correctness crap yet?
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TSgt James Carson
I am much more concerned about where this country is going and what it will become in 10 to 20 years. Not some trivial identity concern.
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Airman is fine. It's only offensive when some female wants to say "I'm an Airwoman, of Band of Sisters", no, some things just sound right.
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