Posted on Jun 16, 2014
What would you do if you saw a Soldier enter a strip club in partial uniform?
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A little while ago my girlfriend was driving home around 5pm on a Tuesday and saw something I found utterly ridiculous. When she got home she told me she witnessed a Soldier in the parking lot of a strip club take off his ACU uniform top, put it in the trunk of his BMW and head into the club. I was completely dumbfounded and ranted incoherently for several minutes about professionalism and disgracing the uniform. My question is, other than performing duty on the Courtesy Patrol (which is full uniform and brassard), what business does any Soldier have entering a strip club IN PARTIAL UNIFORM? What is the appropriate response if you saw this? I didn't witness it myself and have no idea why that Soldier was there in the first place but is there any reason at all why this might be acceptable?
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CPT Johnson,
Looks like this Soldier was trying to be "anonymous" and instead of changing clothes, went the expedient way.
If I saw it in time to safely, and with decorum, confront the Soldier I would, but I would not do so in a manner that would only make it escalate. Calm, sincere question of, "What are you doing?" followed by, "Who are you and what unit are you from?" should take care of the issue.
Jkp
Looks like this Soldier was trying to be "anonymous" and instead of changing clothes, went the expedient way.
If I saw it in time to safely, and with decorum, confront the Soldier I would, but I would not do so in a manner that would only make it escalate. Calm, sincere question of, "What are you doing?" followed by, "Who are you and what unit are you from?" should take care of the issue.
Jkp
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Bad #1) There is only one uniform that is authorized to be worn in partial pieces/mixed with civilian clothing, and that is the PT uniform. So first off he is out of uniform.
Bad #2) He is entering an establishment that is expressly prohibited in reg from him entering in uniform of any kind.
Bad #2) He is entering an establishment that is expressly prohibited in reg from him entering in uniform of any kind.
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Spouse/Family member died or seriously injured inside? That would be the only semi-acceptable circumstance I could see. That circumstance would not call for removing the top though. That screams I know Im wrong, but im doing it anyway.
Aside from that no reason at all. A better question is who is in that big of a hurry to go to the club after or during work. I would confront the soldier and also inquire about underlying circumstances for being so eager to go that you didn't have time to change. Alcohol problem? Prostitution? Confronting a spouse? Discontent with serving? Men are men sure, but that excited to see a topless person just doesn't add up for me.
Aside from that no reason at all. A better question is who is in that big of a hurry to go to the club after or during work. I would confront the soldier and also inquire about underlying circumstances for being so eager to go that you didn't have time to change. Alcohol problem? Prostitution? Confronting a spouse? Discontent with serving? Men are men sure, but that excited to see a topless person just doesn't add up for me.
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I think the right thing to do is to approach the individual Soldier. Identify yourself; ask for his name and his unit. Inform him that he is out of uniform and that it’s more appropriate to change into civilian attire before entering these types of establishment. There is no need for escalation or demeaning that individual Soldier. Use it as a moment for couching and mentoring.
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SGM (Join to see)
Thanks for your observation. However, I was answering the question of what to do if you observed a Soldier enter the establishment in question. Maybe I could have clarified it a bit better.
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CW3 (Join to see)
SFC Drake, SFC Ahmed is correct, the title of this discussion is "What would YOU do"....
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CMSgt James Nolan
I am sorry, but I am laughing hard at the typo. SFC Ahmed made a typo-I am not being critical, I am just laughing-when he said that this would be a good moment for "couching and mentoring" and I am thinking that this is exactly the reason he went a strip club. For a little couching.
We all do typos-all the time (myself included), but this one was perfect and HYSTERICAL.
We all do typos-all the time (myself included), but this one was perfect and HYSTERICAL.
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SGM (Join to see)
That's great you can laugh as hard as you wish. My point was educate the service member. In my experience I have found SM uninformed about that do and don't. The right thing to do is find out what the service member is doing and educate him. That's what leaders do, not be little and treat him like he is nobody. That will be my last two cents on this topic.
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Sir,
I concur with LTC P thoughts on this, as that is the politically correct way, however if you may allow me to say what you really wanted to do and say:
1. "Hey soldier, what the blank..blank...blank are you doing in this establishment?"
2. What is your name slimebag...blank...blank..blank?!
3. "Are you a recruiter or something...blank..blank..blank"
4. Of course I'll let your imagination run on the "blank, blank" part!
Now back to reality....maybe he lost his wallet there for some strange reason he went back to see if it was still there? who knows what the reason was...without direct eyes on target..what do you do? Just my .02
I concur with LTC P thoughts on this, as that is the politically correct way, however if you may allow me to say what you really wanted to do and say:
1. "Hey soldier, what the blank..blank...blank are you doing in this establishment?"
2. What is your name slimebag...blank...blank..blank?!
3. "Are you a recruiter or something...blank..blank..blank"
4. Of course I'll let your imagination run on the "blank, blank" part!
Now back to reality....maybe he lost his wallet there for some strange reason he went back to see if it was still there? who knows what the reason was...without direct eyes on target..what do you do? Just my .02
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SFC A.M. Drake
Of course not! Where do you get that assumption? My 2nd paragraph was actually a sad case of wth was here doing there to begin with.
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SPC Brian Aranda
#3 would lead someone to believe it's okay to do if he was a recruiter, it's a little confusing.
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SFC A.M. Drake
I'm sorry you and SFC Stewart think that this nay infer that but it does not. There is a saying. "Do what you rank can afford!" Besides I could have inferred anyone...tanker, infrantryman, mechanic, cadet, AG, ordnance, Drill Sargeant, would it still have been considered ok?
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Maybe he is married and they only have one car. Maybe he was on his way home and has to pick his wife up from work and thought that would be the best option?!?!?!
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TSgt Kevin Robertson
Interesting point. If that were true, that's a true judgment call on how to handle that situation.
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I would tell the idiot to get the hell out of that pig joint, report back to the barracks for tons of extra latrine duty! Foolish kids!
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There are clear regulations about entering any drinking establishment in a uniform. We must maintain proper uniform in public.
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