Posted on Jan 7, 2016
CPT Russell Pitre
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I just saw this video and felt like I was watching a multi-car accident on the interstate. It just got worse as it went on. What made it so bad as this was a SGT. The Safety was professional as he could be. Hats off to him. When I heard her say "I'm not Active Duty" I would have kicked her off the range. I am glad the Safety told her that she was a soldier and that he was a reservist too. If I was her CO I would have do everything I could to reduce her. But I think if you have a NCO like this in your unit the unit itself has a lot of issues in the first place. What kills me also is that she has a combat patch.

What would you have if you were the Safety?

Just so you know that you know it is believed that they Safety was a SSG just the same as was the soldier trying to load the mag.

https://www.facebook.com/Theseniorspecialist/videos/ [login to see] 43848/?fref=nf
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Training. A lot of us get past basic stuff without learning it, don't we? Especially in this age of "get it done yesterday". I didn't see the video but it doesn't matter. I would make sure she got trained up. Then I would take a little time finding out what else she may or may not know. It may be her fault, but it might not be. I might also contact her GYSGT or equivalent and find out why. He/she might be interested to know. Short story, her training is lacking and it needs to get up to speed so we can win and somebody doesn't die unnecessarily.
GySgt Mark Devlin
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First off if you’re talking about the photo of the Female Soldier sitting Indian Style on the firing line she’s a SPC, not a SGT. Second the weapon is a Belt Fed Weapon, no magazine involved!
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SCPO Larry Knight Sr.
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I concur this should not be something to share with social media outlets. This is what is conducted off the firing line/range in a professional manner . We're not leaders in ridicule, we're bound by a different code which emphasizes the necessity for constant battle readiness training with unparralled safety standards both on and range etc. It's just like whenever you have to reprimand a subordinate, it's handled in the appropriate place not for a group to witness. I stand firm on the platform of practice/ repetativeness is paramount in all area's of training. Especially when we're resertifing on the range, this erases doubt of wether or not you qualify ! Prior deployment readiness training is essential for ensuring that the command is ready to meet any and all challenges... I distinctly recall when we had reservists or as they were sometimes referred to as (weekend warriors) , the necessity for indoctrination of forces afloat training scenarios and every day life of active duty life on deployment. This ensures not only basics but also advanced technology/training before they return to the reserve center's/home. It will also enhance their advancement chances..
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SPC Danny Hahn
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How does someone reach the rank of Sargent without knowing how to load a magazine? The Army sure has changed since i was in.
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SFC Casimir Vital
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First, I would break a size 12 off in the fourth point of contact of the person that filmed and posted it.
I would want to know if you saw something going wrong why were you not correcting it instead of just trying to humiliate another soldier and get some likes. I have not seen the video and do not want to see it if we have come to the point of entertaining ourselves with peer, superior, and or subordinate failures.
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SPC Dejan Smaic
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I would have looked closely at her unit.
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SPC Dejan Smaic
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In addition, I’d correct her deficiencies right then and there, rather than let her leave the range incompetent and a hazard to others.
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SrA Dan Frady
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Teach her how to load one amd give her lots of practice.
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LCDR Arthur Whittum
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Take him/her aside and do a quick training session. I'm retired from the Coast Guard (1979), but I can remember getting a seat on the CGHQ pistol team in the late '60s - That got me training on .22 and .45 caliber pistols before I ever got to live fire. And lots of magazine loading time during preps for "2700" matches.
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LCDR Arthur Whittum
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Almost forgot - we had M1 and 1911 training in boot camp (1957).
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LCpl Joelene Hornback Kurtz
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In the Marines we don't have that problem! Every Marine's a rifleman . We all know how to handle a weapon
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1SG Infantryman
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Kick them off my range. Find out who was in charge of PMI and get about knee deep in their ass
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SSgt David Baker
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If she did not have the knowledge necessary is not a reflection on her but on whoever trained her. Repetition is where knowledge is passed on. The more we sweat in Peace the less we bleed in war.
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
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As usual, I would pull him aside and show him how to do it correctly. If he gave me attitude, I would then leave it to him to unf—- himself. I even had to help fix a brigade or battalion commander a couple of times during an open ranks inspection. I don’t know if those following them ever caught on, or even if the guys left, right front or back noticed. I will say that all three commanders subtly cleaned the shaving cream off their faces. I will always wonder, how the senior NCOs would let him in front of the troops that way...at least three different times in different units. Knowing he was going to give an inspection, you would think would inspect the commander.
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CW4 Head Of Household
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CPT Pedre,

I would understand your frustration but if you were the commander of the soldier and trying to demote him or her for her lack of knowledge at a E5 or E6 level I can tell you that would be above your grade and the shit storm you would cause for yourself for lack of supervising and ensuring that your safety office and Safety NCO did their job to ensure that the lane safeties knew their jobs. I would guess you would be getting a good ole ass chewing for the job you Didn't do. Granted if this was a NCO he or she should have brought up the fact that he or she is not familiar with that weapon. All in all it would have been your fault for this situation.
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SGT Jon Creager
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So you would reduce her in rank because of your failure to ensure proper training? What a screwed up leader you are. YOu do your best to ensure Esp de Corp. not especially demote. Junior leaders such as you capt. are why good soldiers leave the military.
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SGT Kenneth Stelly
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Video doesn't exist, where is the video?
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SGT Kenneth Stelly
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Please don't ask me what I would do....
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LCpl Motor Vehicle Operator
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Inexcusable. C'mon, Army.
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Robert Baker
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Send her ads to the rear, and write for being unsafe on the line.
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MSG Keith Folger
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The problem is rampant. Years ago the Army took away specialist ranks and gave everyone “hard stripes”. This led to “you better know what your job is” but didn’t help teach anyone how. Ineffective leaders say “you should already know this based on your rank”. How? Through osmosis? The Army opened up this can of worms to save money and unfortunately not everyone’s career path teaches them to be a leader. Reservists have a total of 76 days of duty (after their initial entry training) and they’re eligible for sergeant. (2 years consisting of one weekend per month and 2 weeks summer). The system is screwed up and everyone likes to be self righteous rather than honest. Now let’s talk about the joke that’s the counseling system. Let me come inspect your counseling checklists and see if they’re initialed like they’re supposed to be. Those who do are the one percenters. The horse shit about writing your own ncoer is alive and well throughout the reserves. Once a year we all sit down and have an ncoer party. Guess what happens when you ask for your counseling? You’re told “so you want to play hardball”. God help if an nco tries to ask the IG for help if their chain violates the counseling regs. The IG doesn’t deal with that particular violation because there is a “built in” redress process. It’s a bunch of selectively enforced toilet paper. So if a sergeant can’t load a magazine it damn sure isn’t their fault. They’re actually a spec 5 and can’t help it the Army said “you better do it or else because we overtasked you in the name of other duties as assigned”.
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MSG Walter Rogers
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I think I know how she got promoted, durning Speical favors to her Command
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