Posted on Jul 27, 2015
MSgt Curtis Ellis
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I'm just curious as to when is it acceptable for the use of racial or other slurs... Is it OK if you are using it in the 3rd person (repeating what someone else said)? Or how about when trying to reiterate a passionate point? Would making it published in Websters, regardless of the definition you give it, deem it correct and acceptable for use? Is it really appropriate when two or more people of the same race refer slurs to each other, or to others as long as the one affected doesn't hear? Should there really be a reasonable expectation of privacy for those who accidentally get recorded or overheard using them? Should it be considered freedom of speech? As far as I am concerned, the answer is "NO" for the above and any other situation of this nature... But yet, I still hear it and see (read) it... Even here on RP (which really surprised me) and other social media sites... I've seen (read) it from someone "making a point", or "repeating" what someone else either said or wrote... Does that make it acceptable? Am I the only one feeling this, or am I making way too much out of this? And no, its not just between black and white, and no, I'll NOT mention any names or posts as I'm sure our administrators will find them or it soon enough, if they haven't already... Just wanted to have you all weigh in on this as RP is kinda therapeutic for me... My apologies in advance as this has more than one question and quite a few angles... This is probably more venting than anything else... But? I like RP, so what better place?
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CSM Michael Poll
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Only if in an official inquiry, or reporting an incident where the slur is used as evidence against a person who has use the term, IE if you must quote someone to report the incident. This is the ONLY time I would allow this type of ignorance.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
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Agree...
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SFC Mark Merino
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Damn straight CSM Michael Poll
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CMSgt Bobby Hughes
CMSgt Bobby Hughes
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Tracking!
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SGT Ben Keen
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I'm going to be on the side of NEVER on this one. Regardless if you said it, or if you are repeating the words of someone, you should always take the higher road and just remove that sort of speech from your vocabulary.
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SSgt Alex Robinson
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Never. Simple. Treat people with respect and dignity.
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When are the use of racial slurs deemed "acceptable"?
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Well I would caution you not to watch Django Unchained or listen to just about any modern day rap artist. It is a dangerous situation now a days. A person could be signing along to a song by Kanye West and have said many of offensive things without realizing it. But as you say, is this ok? Personally, I don't use such words. I don't repeat them as they are even difficult to say such a word. I do recall something like this being posted a long time ago. It was similar in making the point the point of repeating such words.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
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No worries there... Django, and movies like it aren't my type...
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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Or El Torino. Damn that was a good movie, but if you're easily offended by racial slurs used to make a point, stay away.
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SCPO David Lockwood
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NEVER!
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MSgt Curtis Ellis

Good question.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
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CPT (Join to see) I'm still surprised to know that there are still "unwritten" exceptions... Who knew?
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MAJ Alvin B.
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In theory never.
In practice it seems for some groups they are are acceptable if used by members of that group.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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I took a "Diverse Cultures" class in college which was on Fort Riley, KS and many of the students were service members. The instructor, who was actually a holder of a PhD in her field has each student say a racist slur for a group of people on the first day of class. This was a protected in environment and no one complained. The instructor was also an African-American woman not that mattered but what really mattered the most of all was her credentials and the class which was being taught. So I think its okay in a class room environment for the purposes of education however, be forewarned, I have found many young Soldiers to be in possession of very thin skin and the Army is partly to blame for that. I was once accused of saying something racist when an African-American Soldier heard my say "food stamps" aka, government food assistance at work. In the end, this Soldier was very uneducated and ignorant unlike myself and she was set straight. I also turned it around on her because she assumed since I was not "black" I must have been saying something racist.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
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I hear ya... I've even been called the same for my views on programs such as this and other similar topics, and I am black!!! LOL!
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MSgt Robert Pellam
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I am trying to look at this from every angle. My instinct is to say "Never" but as you said, it appears all around us. I know society as a whole plays a huge part to what we perceive as racial slurs. Individual cultures also push these perceptions. Many people have a hard time understanding cross culture references and they inadvertently say something that is perceived as a racial slur.

Racial slurs occur when one wants to convey emotion, disdain, or even hate. These words are meant to highlight a point, although they tend to overshadow it. So honestly, if you ever want to be taken seriously don't ever use them.

On a side track.

What I think funny is we use the term "Race" to define different Humans. It is a social statement because genetically and biologically there is only one race, the Human Race. We, as perceptive creatures, use our eyes to sense and judge almost everything. That means other humans too. We also compete with each other constantly. Trying to make ourselves feel superior by making others feel inferior is common in the Human Race. We use color of skin, religion, region born, sex, age and almost any physical attribute to employ a feeling of superiority just for us being us. It is one of the human races given flaws that repeats itself over and over again.

How we show this is Racial slurs. Offensive words, that when said, mean the speaker is better then recipient because they are this and the commenter is that.

Problem is, we are all in the same boat. Our lives are fleeting compared to the Universe. Think of the power Humans would have if we all worked together, instead of competing against each other.

But it will never happen as we are Human. It is that competition that defines us, and has defined us for centuries.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
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Totally agree... And as long as there are humans, this... "offense" will always be present, perceived, or not... I often wonder what it would be like if we all were purple... But? Human nature being what it is, I'm sure it would only be a matter of time before there would be something that would be used to differentiate/discredit another... I guess it's in our nature...
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MSgt Robert Pellam
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MSgt Curtis Ellis The good thing is we are slowly, and I mean snails pace here, working our way away from it. If you look at History itself you see that we are a far cry better then before. It won't be in our life time, but I believe eventually we as humans will transcend this irrationality of racism. There is Hope, and where there is hope goals can be achieved.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
MSgt Curtis Ellis
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Incha'allah! LOL! ;)
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Capt Seid Waddell
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Never appropriate.
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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MSgt Curtis Ellis 40 years ago, Soldiers in A/--/--company thought they were being cute w/ a friend of theirs. I found it was distasteful, but the subject always played along.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025 I've seen it myself, and was titled as a trouble maker once by leadership for speaking up for someone who "didn't mind"... Amazing... That wasn't so long ago considering...
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