Posted on Mar 22, 2016
LTC Thomas Tennant
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I think when push come to shove, if they want the Jewish vote they all will say just about anything. However, Cruz and Trump would do the better job in supporting Israel.
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What happened to Jodan, Egypt, Kuwait, Bahrain, Morocco, Qatar, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia as being our allies?
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SFC Justin Scott
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CPT (Join to see) - You replied before my follow on apparently. As I read further into the comments, another poster said something that made me go back and reread. I missed the word only the first time which completely validates your post afterall.
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SFC Justin Scott - Thank you.
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SFC Justin Scott
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CPT (Join to see) - When I'm wrong, I'm definitely willing to admit it. I apologize for my first comment, you were not obfuscating but rather pointing out the fallacy of the OP's question. Had he left out the word only, his question would have had merit.
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TSgt Timothy Ryburn
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This is the "Perfectly worded question" to show why I don't support a Republican ticket. The tone from Cruz, Trump, or the rest is one that supports a mindset of "Israel is our only ally." It is almost as if they draw comfort and strength from being "Against the World" with Israel propped up on our shoulders. Whatever happened to "Making Friends and Allies." Why can't we look at all of these other countries in the Middle East as "Potential Allies" instead of "Potential Targets."
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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The question on its face is flawed.

Israel is not our "only ally" in the Middle East. Jordan is a prime example or a long standing "ally" in the Middle East. Technically speaking the days or Allies and Enemies are long gone.

We have Nations whose "current and specific interests" either align or do not align with ours. Israel is one of those, just like Saudi Arabia. Every sovereign nation looks out for THEIR own interests, and if those happen to align with OUR interests, more the better. If they don't, they will sell us out. Just like we will to them.

We got caught spying on our "friends" or "allies" or whatever you want to call them during the Snowden fiasco, and although everyone got huffy about it, you can be sure everyone knew it was happening, and everyone would do the exact same thing in the name of Diplomacy.

We don't have Friends. We have Nations who we are currently "friendly" with. Israel is one of those Nations, but if we can get a better deal out of Iran, we will, and if that means Iran gets screwed... that's Diplomacy.

As for the Jewish vote, it's 1.4% of the US population, and leans HEAVILY Democratic Party (70%+) in the US.
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SFC Justin Scott
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I'm glad I saw your post because I missed that phraseology (only ally) the first time I read it and was going to come to his defense on other posts (and actually did on one prior to seeing your post).
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Because clearly the right wing evangelical Christian candidates would be more supportive of Israel than the lone Jewish candidate?

That makes sense....
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SFC Justin Scott
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Actually, given Sander's rhetoric and voting record, it makes a lot of sense!
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It all depends on how you define supportive, if supportive means continuing to hand over billions of dollars each year and blocking UN condemnation of Israel while Israel continues to annex Palestinian land... then Obama has been very supportive. If in order to qualify as supportive the president needs to do all that and bend his knee to Netanyahu... then Obama and likely all the other Democrat candidates are not adequately supportive.

If your idea of a U.S. President who supports Israel includes fealty to Netanyahu, you probably want to support Cruz.
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SSG Daniel Deiler
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Correction...that land has ALWAYS been Israels. The Palestinian state stole by use of force the land that truly is, was and will always belong to the Jews.
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Maj John Bell
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How far do you want to go back? There is a pretty fair argument that it ceased to be a Jewish state from the fourth century A.D. until the twentieth century A.D. Post-WWII there were forced relocations of non-Jewish population that had been in place for centuries.

This is what I believe to be true, 1)Jews needed a homeland. 2) The European powers did a really bad job setting it up 3) Everybody is pissed off. 4) If I had been in charge, everybody would be just as pissed off.
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Which candidate do you think will support our only ally, Israel, in the Middle East?
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Agree with Trump. He knows it already works. Israel isn't our only ally, btw. There are Kurds and Turks (provided Erdogan and his extremist party gets eliminated).
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Please define Ally. I do not want to seem belligerent, but we have more than one ally in the Middle East. I respectfully decline to name a candidate as I don't think any of them tell the whole truth on the campaign trail. We will only know when/if they get elected.
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CMSgt Bill Ford
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Steve, I asked above to define support, you also ask a great question. Also, Israel is not unified, there are many on the Left or Far Left in Israel that are not in support of a Jewish State. They need to decide as a nation what they want...
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What "real" ally do we have in the ME? When I look at a map of that area, all I see is a series of "evils". Which one is the lesser of the other? Out of the candidates listed, ALL of them would pledge to do whatever to get a vote. So ALL of them are on equal footing.
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SSG Warren Swan
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CPT Jack Durish - We will have to agree to disagree then Sir. We owe them nothing, but we give them everything. The ROI isn't there to me. I do not see equal footing in the races there even though they "live" on the same land. I'm sure if you asked a Native American here, they'd tell you the same thing. If they're leery of having a "friend" like us? Russia is there, Iran would love to have relations, Egypt would love round two maybe (it'd be worse on them than rd 1, but they're there. There is nothing that makes them more of an "ally" than England, or France, or even Germany. In fact in many ways we get more from those three than Israel. So who should be leery? When your politicians "pledge" to another country who's winning? It damn sure isn't us. Are you going to "pledge" allegiance to Nigeria, Cambodia, East Timor, Lybia? I know the answer. Are you going to support a politician who does?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/resources/briefing-papers/1230-israels-discrimination-against-its-arab-citizens
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CPT Jack Durish
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SSG Warren Swan - Wow! Nothing fair and balanced about that report, is there? Let me bow out at this point as it is pointless to continue. If you're going to cling to propaganda like that, I see no hope of having a "conversation". As for "native Americans", many think that it was a mistake to exclude them from the new nation that grew upon their lands. Sadly, I think they excluded themselves. They were a Stone Age peoples attempting to cope with an Iron Age civilization. (The division is even wider as a Bronze Age civilization - the Islamists - attempt to cope with an Information Age world, and they too are excluding themselves)
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SSG Warren Swan
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CPT Jack Durish - there is nothing fair or balanced. I used a site that fits what I wanted you want to see. I could've used, or referenced, "better" sites I agree, or I could've used Fox or MSNBC and where would the "fair and balanced" be there? I could've used Rand and other think tanks, but using them would mean finding out who paid for the research. Climate Change is a prime example of how fair and balanced isn't really what it seems. On the Native Americans, it wasn't a mistake to exclude them it was a tragedy to do to them what was done, and then in some cases force them into a religion they didn't know. The division? How can you say there was a division? Sure they all had tribal lands before, and didn't always get along, but when their lands were taken in westward expansion the separation was maybe more to survive and keep the traditions intact, than anything else. Having a conversation is an open discussion of ideas, ideals, and possible outcomes. If we censor any of that to suit what we consider reputable, is the conversation really open or is it wasting time being one or the other refuses to be fully open that there are more than what's "accepted"? I know better than to use wikki anything, and normally when I use a site like this, I also post a counter to it....with the intent of being "fair". I didn't but that doesn't just say this is all propaganda. If I use NRA for weapons, would that be a "reputable" site or propaganda? It would depend on the user and the receiver.
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SFC Justin Scott
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SGT Rick Ash - Think you confused me for someone else. I'm asking how they are draining us since Captain Millersats they are.
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SPC David S.
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I find the question a rather curious assertion as we have US military bases and or installations in Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, U.A.E., Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, P'Stan, A'Stan, T'Stan. While I know such a presence doesn't always equate to an ally (Gitmo in Cuba) some of those that do are considered major non-NATO supporters. In fact there are five countries that the US has designated as such: Jordan, Egypt, Kuwait, Bahrain and Morocco. As well there is Turkey a member of NATO. The apparent insinuation in the question that Israel is the only Middle Eastern ally that counts – whether deliberate or accidental – would be a strange rejection of the eight countries in the region that certainly look like American allies. Personally I don't feel that any of the candidates have a grasp of the situation - I would bet if asked with out any preparation to name the county, leader and ruling sect all candidates would find this equally difficult. None of them have a poli sci background and I would consider them all equally dangerous mucking about in the region.
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I'd pick any of the Republicans, but Trump seems to be the most willing to use foreign and understands not tipping your hand. Under Clinton's watch, we lost Egypt as an ally, Yemen began slipping (before it finally went under), and we stood silent as coup d'états ravaged Central America. Not to mention that she has a special contempt for the military (accounts from military members serving around her and even the JCS under her husband found her to be less than cordial. She demanded the Chiefs not wear their uniforms to the White House). Sanders doesn't have the balls or stomach for military action and he flat out doesn't understand security constructs or the military (or basic economics).
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CMSgt Bill Ford
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Define support?
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LTC Stephen F.
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LTC Thomas Tennant I think that Ted Cruz would support Israel as well as the Kurdish Peshmerga and I expect he might be tough on Turkey as long as they are pursuing a hardline intolerant policy on their own non-Sunni Muslim citizens and the Kurds. I expect he would also support Egypt to the degree that they are assisting us with Libya and the Sinai.
2nd best I think that John Kasich would treat our long-term ally Israel as well
3rd best I believe that Donald Trump would do a much better job than Hillary or Bernie Sanders.
I concur with SPC Corbin Sayi's assessment of the Erdogan-led government of Turkey.
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I think Kamal Ataturk would be VERY disappointed in the current Turkish regime.

That said, I think there is very little difference in any of the current candidates when it comes to support Israel should Israel be attacked. The difference lies in supporting Israel should Israel continue building settlements. Sanders, the lone Jewish candidate (I think he's culturally Jewish but theologically agnostic or even atheistic), would be the only one to rebuke Israel if settlement activity continued or if they didn't negotiate in good faith toward a two state solution.
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