Posted on Dec 13, 2015
SFC John Birks
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I still remember those days doing rifle qualification. Kids these days are spoiled with the ACOGs and CCOs. Being a former Soldier who has done both in my career. The optics make it much easier. Who else can remember those iron sight days?
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SGT Aaron Barbee
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I honestly can't remember not qualifying with iron sights. I know in the units I was assigned to, you had to qualify Sharpshooter at a minimum to even consider qualifying with any optic on your weapons.
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Maj Mike Sciales
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I learned on iron sights. 100 yards. Won plenty of competitions, but am glad they have better optics & computer assist to make anybody a sniper. Better return on investment.
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MSG John Wirts
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Edited 10 y ago
Iron sights on the 30-40 Kraig, the M-1 Garand, the M-14, the M-1, 2 carbine, the 38 S&W Combat Master, the 1911 45 cal, the M-16, M-16A1, all with iron sights. Never had hands on a military rifle with a scope.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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There sights are not what you think of when you say scope. They are smaller than scopes and quicker to use than scopes or iron sites
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SPC Alexsis Chancellor
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I agree.. I can't believe you're not required to be proficient in using iron sights anymore. Smh
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SFC John Birks
SFC John Birks
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From what I'm learning new Soldiers are just getting a "fam-fire" on iron sights..
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SSG Todd Halverson
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That is the only way I qualified..... even later in my career when I had an ACOG. One needs to be proficient with the Iron Sights because sooner or later the optics will fail one way or another. If they want, have them qualify with both; the optics qualification would be to demonstrate proficiency.
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SGT Christopher Churilla
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Qualified with iron sights a couple of months ago and scored the exact same as I did with an ACOG I used the time before that. And I learned a valuable lesson about aiming in the process, so I think we should use them and leave the fancy optics to the snipers.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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"I remember way back when during the Great War" LOL!
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1SG Military Police
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I still prefer it & my unit currently alternates iron sight qualification & optics every other year.
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SPC Matthew Birkinbine
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My old guard unit still had M16A1's.
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MSG John Wirts
MSG John Wirts
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when I was active duty I trained on the M-1 Garand, when I got to my duty assignment we had M-14's. In my two NG units we had old weapons. My Air Guard unit qualified on the M-1 and M-2 carbine, My Army Guard unit had M-14's. I fired the M-16, and M-16A1. Never touched the M-16A2 or the M-4.
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SSgt Carpenter
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OSUT 2012 still required an iron sight qual. Have used an M68 for every qual since though.
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