Posted on May 30, 2015

Why doesn't the APFT have provisions for injuries incurred during the test?
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If you are taking an APFT, and roll your ankle during the run, and as a result you run slower to the finish line and fail, should this still count as a failure? I read Chapter 14 of FM 21-20 and the only mention of injuries I could find was that the injury could be annotated in comments box. I feel as thought in this scenario, the APFT test should not be counted against the injured soldier. What are your thoughts?
Posted 10 y ago
Responses: 28
I agree I was stationed in a CSH in Miesau, Germany and they would set up our run on a uneven unpaved surface. Did we have a track? Why yes we did, did we use it? No! So yes, loads of (minor) injuries during the AFPT just enough to eff up your time if you were borderline,.. Sucks! But true!
If you fail because of the injury go see medics get a profile let it heal the try again, too easy.
I don't know how it is handled anymore, but one of my units used to administer a PT test every month, but unless you scored above your normal the test was recorded on the APFT card but only the highest 2 were recorded as "Record Test" Perhaps it was because as a support unit we had soldiers constantly doing support missions which oftentimes did not allow one to keep up a constant PT regimen. I had a time I had to do a PT test the day after spending 2 weeks in the field, so needless to say that test score sucked wind. The humorous part was sitting with my squad leader and helping him write the mandatory counseling statement for failing the test, although we both that the next month would be better and it was. I'm not sure how to handle a unit that only tests twice a year, I would think there would be a need to have a make-up date for soldiers on leave, off-duty due to SDO, CQ, etc. and to catch the malingerers who are trying to skate out of the test.
Not performing to standard on an APFT is a failed APFT. There are things leadership can do should an injury occur, including marking the APFT as a diahgnodtic, removing you from the APFT area and sending you to the aide station for treatment, or holding onto your PT card until your injury can be verified. It is also appropriate to tell your first line or the NCOIC of there is a reason you shouldn't take the APFT, such as recent illness or injury that may effect your ability to perform. But ultimately if you start the APFT and bolo you may just have to eat it and retest later when you're recovered.
A lot of times the leadership will hive the benefit of the doubt. Even if it does count as a "failure" the command might not flag the soldier or give him any negative actions.
There is no provisions when it comes to combat so why have provisions for the pt test. Make it as real as possible. If a soldier rolled their ankle in combat they would get back up and run, but a. REMF would just not do the pt test because it would simulate too much like war.
im all for it. but there will those that abuse it. see, if you are failing the run already, you can magically roll that ankle. I can understand why the MFT wouldn't want to change. also, the FM is no longer. make sure you are looking at the most updated APFT book.

SGT Raymond Giebas
FM 7-22
Why would there need to be a "provision"
1: did you pass YES / NO
IF NO
, it matters not why.. There is no action that is different following a kind of fail.. Kind of not pass
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Follow up actions are based on pass of fail. So what purpose do you see is a fail with astrex Mark
1: did you pass YES / NO
IF NO
, it matters not why.. There is no action that is different following a kind of fail.. Kind of not pass
All
Follow up actions are based on pass of fail. So what purpose do you see is a fail with astrex Mark
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