Posted on Jul 24, 2015
Will fences solve the issue? Fences Rise Across Middle East as Jihadi Threat Escalates
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Will fences solve the issue? Fences Rise Across Middle East as Jihadi Threat Escalates.
What are your thoughts and comments RP Members that “The Middle East and North Africa is now the most walled region in the world?"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-22/fences-rise-across-middle-east-as-jihadi-threat-rattles-leaders
What are your thoughts and comments RP Members that “The Middle East and North Africa is now the most walled region in the world?"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-22/fences-rise-across-middle-east-as-jihadi-threat-rattles-leaders
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Responses: 11
Fences do not stop the transfer of ideas, the indoctrination of people, or recruitment. So no fences are not the answer but I'm sure the physical aspect of them give some people comfort.
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Fences COL Mikel J. Burroughs from a security and tactical perspective are useless if they are not constantly under observation (of some sort), regularly patrolled and checked, and where you have have the ability to respond to any breach issue in time to stop a potential infiltrator. It is similar to the concept that military obstacles need to be under observation and within the range of direct fire weapons to be effective. Unobserved, Unsecured, Uncontrolled barriers do little more than provide the illusion of security.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Charles Williams Agreed. I guess they have the money to waste in the Middle East
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SGT Christopher Wilson
You may be overlooking the psychological value of the fence both positive for those inside of it (the U.S.) with "feel-good" security and negative for those outside of it who may not KNOW that it is not actively being monitored. Deception techniques such as dummy cameras and infrequent/random patrol schedules can be employed to further increase the psychological division for those contemplating crossing.
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COL Charles Williams
SGT Christopher Wilson - I understand that, but fences alone, like fake cameras are not solution. They are part of of solution. I was strictly talking a fence, with no other measures included... patrols, cameras and fake camera, etc...
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Unless their is an East German Mine Field on the other side of that fence I don't think it is going to be very useful.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs, No Sir. The only thing I can think of that would stop the crossings is to continue to dig the ditches, but instead of barbed wire, install a natural gas line and keep it burning like an eternal flame. Sound ridiculous? Yes, and so does fences. As has been proven in Mexico, if someone wants to cross our borders, or any border, or escape from a maximum security prison, which, is another thread for RP, it can be done without anybody knowing, unless you pay off someone. IMHO
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A middle eastern border patrol. This is interesting. I think a fence could be a start, but it needs to be a thick and tall wall instead of a fence with modern day surveillance and robotic anti tank and anti personal weapons for security. You would also need a lot of border patrolman to monitor the areas.
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Hamas and/or PLO have built extensive tunnel networks under the Israeli West Bank barrier, the drug cartels have built tunnels under the fences on the US southern borders... bottom line, a fence alone is not sufficient to keep out a determined force.
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I am interested in how the 200 mile ditch/moat that they are digging between Turkey and Syria will turn out. If nothing else it will make it harder for ISIS/ISIL to sneak recruits in from Turkey.
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