Posted on Feb 29, 2016
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I have seen people sharing an article suggesting that "anonymous military leaders" have said they would not take orders from a President Trump. Whether this information is fake or not, why would anyone believe that the military would not follow orders from whoever becomes the Commander in Chief? The military does not sign up to serve one political party or candidate over the other.
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Maj Walter Kilar
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This is just another example of the media being bored, and bored people talking about nothing. A more meaningful discussion from the media would be whether the next President would want to re-evaluate the lawfulness of waterboarding, keeping Guantanamo open, our involvement in Syria, and other key issues affecting the military.
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GySgt Carl Rumbolo
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Actually Major, it is a timely topic - the military is increasingly disengaged from the political and social fabric of the country, and well on the way to being a professional class unto it's own. A quick look at the data shows that military officers tend to come from military families more often than not, and a high percentage of enlisted are similar in backgrounds.

The military, particularly for long service enlisted and officers becomes family and the views of the military are diverging rapidly from the civilian population. We see an increase in senior officers relieved from command or shunted aside for speaking out about policy and openly criticizing elected and appointed civilian authority.

That is a highly slippery slope - and history shows clearly, two things can happen - neither which is good. A political leader arises that appeals to the nature of such a professional military and uses that military for war or the military rises up and rejects civilian authority and control.

As I noted earlier, suppose Donald Trump is elected president and responds to a crisis in such a manner that military believes counter to values and beliefs - if they refuse to execute orders we have essentially coup - and a constitutional crisis ...
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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Highly unlikely that the military acts monolithically. Internecine bloodshed within the military and an armed populace with an in-bred distrust of authority render the possibility of success nil. I might not like what elected officials do, but eventually they can be voted out. Even if I agree with the reasons for the coup-d'état. They will have to kill me, or be killed by me. The Constitution, The Constitution, The Constitution.
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CPT Jack Durish
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Really? After the past seven years someone has the temerity to ask this? The military has been challenged by We the People with the election of many poor Commanders-in-Chief and the military has never hesitated to obey lawful orders, even those that reflected questionable judgement.
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SPC Andrew Griffin
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If he is elected! They really wont have any choice! They will have to take orders from the Commander-in-Thief!
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LTC Immigration Judge
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Yes, if the orders were lawful.
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Maj John Bell
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Edited 10 y ago
Our oath of office is to the Constitution, not the Office of the President, or the person occupying it. If the orders are legal, commissioned officers have three choices obey, resign, or face a court-martial. To answer you question, people would "believe" it because they love the reality show hoopla that follows the Trump candidacy, or because they think that expressing that belief will draw off some of Trump's support. It won't (For the record I don't support him). The last thing in the world anyone wants is a politicized US military.
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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If you are joking, not funny. If you are not joking... shame on you.
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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So is "keep your head in the sand..." intended to further the conversation?
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Maj John Bell
Maj John Bell
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Also, we do not have the same national psyche that reigned in Imperial Japan. You are comparing apples and screwdrivers.
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The militery will do their duty just as it always has.

The only reason they would not would be if the order was unlawful.
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