Posted on Dec 17, 2014
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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the closest I seen to a standard uniform for the Armed Forces was the multicam uniform when I was in Kandahar, and Air Force all wearing the uniform at one point with few deviations. Would do feel about this?
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SSG Scott Grandy
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I support it. I think a common field uniform, as when we had the BDUs, would be the best thing. One Country, one uniform. I have no problem with keeping service specific dress uniforms, but think when deployed, one should see a specific uniform and know that person represents the US.

Just my 2 cents.
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SSG Armor Crew Member
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I'm Army and I'm for that BUT leave the Marines alone they did it right the first time they went to Digital uniforms.
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SPC Paul Hayward
SPC Paul Hayward
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SPC George Campbell - at the same time, except for the headgear and pockets, the uniforms looked the same, same cut, same camouflage pattern, different headgear, different pockets, different way the sleeves were rolled, you could tell it was a U.S. service member without ever needing to see the specifics of the uniform
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SGT Joseph Collins
SGT Joseph Collins
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I've been saying the exact same thing since I was in & we switched from BDUs to ACUs. It would also be a lot cheaper to clothe everyone with the same stuff.

The only good thing McNamara did was just that - consolidate suppliers & save money.
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MSgt Allen Chandler
MSgt Allen Chandler
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SSG (Join to see) - I am replying to your comments only because of your name. But I do agree with you
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CMSgt James Nolan
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For Utility Uniform, Combat Uniform, Battle Uniform, Diggies, Multi-Cams, whatever you want to call it, my answer is yes 100%.

I feel that each service could maintain their own Branch Tapes and Rank insignia. But I would place rank insignia in same location on each uniform.

This would facilitate a few things:
1. Highest quality uniform could finally be obtained
2. Each service would not be spending ridiculous amounts of their budget to research the better option.
3. SMs would be able to obtain uniforms no matter where they were in the world, because uniform shops would only need to carry the one uniform.
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SSG Armor Crew Member
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I would say leave the Marines uniforms alone.
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SGT Dan Gray - I think that was SWOOO CRAPPY when they took the Blk Beret away from you all. I hated it.
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SGT Joseph Wasson
SGT Joseph Wasson
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The black beret is only worn with dress uniforms as of my retirement date in 2013. Rangers no longer wear a black beret period if you earned it you now wear a tan beret. DA Pam 670-1 chapter 4-10 and 18-3. Google it!
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SGT Eric Deyo
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Cpl Phil Hsueh The original question did not specify service/field uniform. It asked if a standard uniform should be adopted. To me, this is a question of economics, practicality and tradition. Each service branch should have something that is practical for the needs of the JOB the SM in that branch is doing. Yes, every member of the military wearing the exact same uniform could save some costs, but then why stop there? If cost is the ultimate concern, do away with visible rank and name and branch tapes on service units, medals and ribbons on dress unis (in fact do away with dress uniforms altogether) The distinctiveness of the uniform for each branch distinguishes each and in an expression of that branches history and traditions with practicality in mind. I recall the first time I saw maternity BDUs and thought, what the hell!? Maternity battle dress uniform? It seemed stupid to me at the moment but I understand that BDU was the daily issue uniform so this allowed expecting SMs to not stick out (pun intended) in formations. I see nothing wrong with each branch maintaining their own uniforms.
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CSM Brigade Operations (S3) Sergeant Major
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It would be pretty funny seeing a bunch of bushes and vegetation running around on the deck of a ship.
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COL Bill Gross
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IF McNamara was for it. that's the best reason to shit can the idea.
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SPC Paul Hayward
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navy doesn't have a need for a "battle dress" uniform, except for those that are involved in special operations, and those stationed on land in a combat theater, but i support a common field (combat) uniform, with common rank insignia placement, so everyone knows where to look for the rank of the serviceman walking towards you, there are many joint service installations that those newbie just out of basic/boot, who don't know the rank structure of other branches, would have problems identifying rank
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SSgt Zacharia Ashby
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Did we not do this once before and it did not work out as planned.
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PO3 Chris Wright, MBA
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LTC Paul Labrador the navy wears blue coveralls so you would still blend in.
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Would you support a standard uniform for all branches of service? Why or Why not?
MAJ Signal Officer
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In terms of saving cost I would support one vendor and one DOD cost.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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Although I do like the branches having their own identity, Having a single uniform may open the door for price negotiations. I can envision the cost savings you mentioned from ordering bulk
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MAJ Signal Officer
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I like the tradition and different insignia/markings etc., but we could save a lot of money with one uniform. The dress uniforms will and should always be distinct
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SSG Rick Austin
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When looking at Govt. Purchasing.. the words "Economy of Scale" are nowhere to be found. Purchasing in Bulk, with the exception of the Navy due to such job differences, WOULD harbor a huge cost savings as well as savings in R&D, Transportation and Storage. Look at Clothing sales stores who have to carry more uniforms than they can possibly facilitate.. Not enough storage causes additional transportation costs, etc., etc.. The govt does a horrendous job of looking at the overall Supply Chain. A single across the service Field Uniform would alleviate much of the Headache and has the potential to generate huge cost savings as well as smoothing out the Supply chain ..Just my 2 bits..
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Sgt Al Thompson
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Penny wise and Pound foolish.
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Maj Ground Supply Officer
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No. Marines would not know what to do with all the Velcro and they don't need to carry office supplies on their sleeves... but if DOD decides to go in that direction they should let the Marine Corps design it. We would do it better and cheaper than anyone else. We designed our MARPAT for only $319K over 12 years ago (thanks Canada). Our pattern seems to be working pretty well.

Interesting side note: According to a report from the Government Accounting Office (GAO 12-707) the Army may spend $4 Billion fixing their ACUs. The monetary equivalent of procuring about (930) M1A1 Tanks.

http://www.gao.gov/assets/650/648951.pdf
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SPC Miles Blackman
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Major Dillard, I agree with you, let the Marines design the basic uniform. Then let the Army and the Air Force add a few extra pockets that the air crews and tankers are going to want. As for boots I think that we should go back to spit shined black boots in garission and the tan rough out boots for the field.
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Wyatt Link83086
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Having the pen on the sleeve is useful when you have to write some shit down. How useful are yalls pockets when it's hard to get into? Go army
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MSgt Dan Calhoun
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I like your reasoning. Another tip of the hat to the Marines...they were the first to go away from the BDU with the Army, Air Force and Navy following not too long after. The Marines still have the MARPAT, all other services have (or are in the process of) changing for a second time since that happened.
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SPC(P) Jay Heenan
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
Agree completely! Look we will give the Marines total design control, then throw a pack of crayons in the middle of them and while they are fighting and eating, we will take care of the design!
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Col Kyle Taylor
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Yes. Keep separate formal uniforms but combat uniforms should all be he same. It helps with identity and uniformity on the battlefield and all you need to do is keep service name strips. A common uniform would significantly reduce the need for logistical trails for various uniforms, boots, etc. some would argue that it would take away the separate service identities but that is a weak argument in a combat situation. Actions speak louder than words.
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PO2 Jeffery Marcussen  Sr
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when your getting shot at what difference does it make? a bullet does not care for any color but red. when under fire every manjack out there regardless of service that has a weapon is going to return fire. so other then branch distinctive badges and insignia the uniform should be the same. the bad guys do not care about the uniform only the color of your blood and that your fighting against them. so why not one uniform in the field. and the regular dress uniforms for dressing up to shine.
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Sgt Al Thompson
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Actually I am told that in Korea the ChiComs would not attack areas where the Marines were. They knew because we wore leggings that were easily identifiable from the Army and ROK units. The DOD made them take off the leggings. Could just be Marine lore though.
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Maj Chris Nelson
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There used to BE a single uniform...That is what the BDU Uniform was.....worn by everyone. I would support it.
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Maj Chris Nelson
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BUT, Even the Corps Utilities were the same as the BDU cammo pattern.....and everyone wore them (well, not sure on the Navy....but who can count how many different uniforms THEY have!). Only problem with the Corps is they never figured out how to roll their sleeves!! ;-)
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Cpl Phil Hsueh
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What happened was the Corps adopted MARPAT, copyrighted it, and wouldn't share it with the rest of the DoD. So the initial fault lies in the Corps being selfish and not being willing to share. Additional blame lies in the SecNav and/or SecDef in not ordering the Commandant to knock off that nonsense about not sharing and making it available to all branches.
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SSgt Christopher Byers
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Cpl Hsueh, you are incorrect. When the Marine Corps started the research for the "MARPAT" uniform, they asked for other branches to join and assist in funding. No other branch wanted to change. The USMC went ahead and funded a Service specific Combat Utility Uniform. Then other branches started to change.
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1stSgt (Join to see) - And what you call your uniform matters why? Call your uniform whatever you want. Just like I call it a latrine and you call it "the head", your commander is "skipper", and many other small differences that makes you a Marine. The pattern of uniform does not matter and I also wish you would go back to the EGA - USMC stencil on the left pocket. It looks MUCH better and "bad a_sed".
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Cpl Aaron Goodson
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Absolutely not. The whole point of having different uniforms is displaying distinction between the services. Embrace these differences. You joined each specific branch for a reason, I didn't join the United States Marine Corps to look like an airman or a soldier. I joined to be a MARINE and to look and conduct myself as such. You all want a common utility uniform, leave the Marine Corps out of it. Take some pride in the service you joined, they're not the same; quit trying to get them to be.
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SGT Justin Dunbar
SGT Justin Dunbar
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BDU's
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SPC Robert DeVolld
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So you wanted to look cool, not just serve your country
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SPC Tony Pacheco
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SPC Robert DeVolld that’s about all I heard from his rambling.
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Cpl Treb Bates
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9 times out of 10, even though I’ve been off active duty for over 20 years, I can spot a Marine. It’s not what is worn over the heart, it’s what is in the heart.
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CCMSgt Superintendent, Senior Leader Management
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(In my humble opinion) I'm a big supporter of one utility uniform for all branches! Personally I'm a huge fan of the multi-cam/OCP... it was nice to wear a uniform that was usable/practical in every sense (slanted Velcro pockets, etc), plus it was just downright comfortable! And I think there's plenty of velcro on those sleeves to formulate and distinguish our own unique branch identities. But with that said, still always maintain the exception and option of different camouflage patterns for adaptiveness to different & unique field environments!

Though I'll also admit my personal bias is speaking as I'd love nothing more than to wear my multi-cams everyday! And yes, for all my Air Force brothers & sisters... we could even come up with nice big velcro stripes so we can continue our tradition of those big stripes on our sleeves! Oh plus, just think how cool that would be on promotion day?... peel that old rank right off and then stick and "tack" those new stripes right on... voila, you're done, no more trips to the alterations shop for a sew-on!

And yes, with respect to my Marine brothers & sisters... you do have one BA uniform and you did it better than the rest of us with your first and only go round when initially fielding your new uniforms to your Marines! So a big shout-out and "Semper-Fi" to all you devil dawgs!

Lastly, thanks to the entire gang... ALL Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, Airmen, and Guardians! NO ONE can do what we do when we're all out there kicking @__ together on the same team! Even the famed warrior Spartans would be impressed and give us props!
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SGT Justin Dunbar
SGT Justin Dunbar
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Agreed, Velcro does not last when crawling in the dirt, lost more patches that way, plus the pockets never stay close and make a ripping sound when torn open, NO VELCRO
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Cpl Kent Mitchell
Cpl Kent Mitchell
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I don't want to look like the army and I definitely don't want to look like I'm air force.
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SGT Federico Vela
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What you want and what you get might be two different things
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I don't that very much
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PO2 Stephen Brinkley (Scott)
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When it comes to the BDU, yes! As for dress uniforms and working uniforms keep them separate in honor of traditions. When the Navy brought out the blue BDU, I thought it was the stupist thing. I was embarrassed to wear them. I went through 3 duty uniforms in 12 years!
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GySgt Mike Wils
GySgt Mike Wils
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Each branch has its mission to perform, and a proper field uniform is necessary. That being said, if the Army, Marines, and Air Force are in the same area of conflict then a similar uniform makes sense. Just don’t let the Army design the thing. We don’t need a bunch of Velcro all over our uniforms.
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Sgt Al Thompson
Sgt Al Thompson
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I see soldiers and sailors wearing utility uniforms on the street. If there is one uniform, that would have to stop. Actually it should stop anyway.
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Sgt Francis Santa-Teresa
Sgt Francis Santa-Teresa
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Personally, I think the NWUs(blueberries) would be the perfect work utility uniform for the Air Force.
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PO2 Loren Gilmore - because they looked just like prison uniforms.
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