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Command Post What is this?
Posted on Feb 16, 2016
SSG Lon Watson
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TSgt Rudy Adame
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SFC Thomas Howes
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I don't know when you went to boot. I went in the 70's and sand hill was kick ass boot and inf school.
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SrA Richard Birdsong
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The Army sounds like the air force. You march in basic and not much after that
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PFC Gerald Bailey
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I feel that Army has gotten softer since 1982 when I went to OSUT in Fort Sill, OK. I still believe that I could've been an even better soldier had I done 10 weeks of basic training instead 8, and 7 weeks AIT instead of 5. I'm a cannon crewman.
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SSG Environmental Specialist
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I would say if you are basing this off of say Ft. Jackson standards you may be correct, but if you are basing this off of OSUT you are wrong. I agree that the non combat basic needs an overhaul, heck the army is actually overhauling OSUT as well making it longer. I know when Ft. Knox had both OSUT and regular basic the standard was pretty high, but the army decide to ship TRADOC training off post.
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SPC Brad Pratt
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Having served on active duty (‘89-‘96) army. I observed the quota push in the early ‘90’s. Don’t get me wrong some of those leaders I would have followed to hell & back. But I’ve had NCOIC’s that I couldn’t understand (broken English). Other times as a corporal, I have to refresh (E-7’s & an E-8) SGT’s on D & C. Because they spent their entire career in a MEDAC & wore civilian close to work. And never what real army was (#FieldUnit)
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SPC Cesar Freytes
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Wow your English is not the best don't criticize others, and you have spell check at your disposal
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SGT Air Defense Enhanced Early Warning System Operator
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Hang my head if this pussy-fyd crap has become acceptable behavior in the Army. I often think back to my basic training in 1975 at Knox. Old wooden barracks. And bless those Vietnam grunt DI's. They kicked our asses ever day.
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CPT Air Defense Artillery Officer
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Yawn, multiple factual inaccuracies in this from the Army side. Apples and oranges at best.
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Sgt Special Reaction Team (3RT) Member
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So much butthurt.

The Army does a lot of things right in my opinion. What a lot of people fail to see is the “Sh*tbaggery” that a lot of marines fall into once they hit the fleet.
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A1C Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE)
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You lost me when you said “Air Borne is an elite school” and “Drill is just as important as PT” Is that really the best use of our time?
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SPC Cesar Freytes
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Shut up your Air Force Well slap you when we need shit and a newby Air Force at that.
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A1C Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE)
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Sorry, I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. SPC Cesar Freytes
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MSG Robert Ford
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I see your point... but the army is much bigger and train in basic for over 200 career fields... the marine basically make all there people be a infantry soldier... we have special training after basic to horn the skill necessary for the career field you selected... don't fix what not broke....
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Cpl William Battles
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Semper Fi
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Lt Col George Roll
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I started reading Leatherneck Magazine when I was 12 or 14. My plan was to join the Corps when I graduated highschool. My Dad and Uncle both pushed me to join the AF for the "technical training. I did so but at the end of four years the AF offered Jump Scchool and Combat Control Career field.
During the next 26 years I had great oppertunities to work with and train with Navy SEALS, complete SCUBA and HALO/ HAHO training work with the British and Australian SAS. The German GSG9, The Danish Yeager Corps and many other Special Operations Forces. I had a great career but still wish somewhere in there I had served in the USMC.would have wanted to have been in Force Recon or MARSOC.
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SPC Tony Ross
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Excellent article but the Marines are, for all intents and purposes, an elite group. They are meant to be an infantry on steroids. They are the Green Berets, Airborne and all other special forces rolled into one. They are Spartans....the 300.
The army is like one responder said, “close to a million” whereas the Marines less than 200K. They are trained different to be different.
As a soldier, my Marine cousin and I used to take jabs at each other but there was no one I would trust more to have my back, even now as veterans .
Marines have a different mentality even before recruitment. They volunteer for that training and any man or woman wearing that EGA has my respect.
The Army may seem softer but their training covers the aspects that compliment the Marines and what all branches bring to the table make our military complete.
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SFC Career Counselor
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I am a Marine and retired Soldier, very well written, hit the nail on the head. I was Seen as an old fashioned leader in the Army.
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MSG Scott McBride
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Well said. I concur with this spot in assessment.
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SGT Patrick Adamek
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The Marines are looking for a few good men, the Army just needs as many people as they can push thru training
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SSG Joseph VanDyck
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When GEN Shinseki took the black beret away from the Rangers and made it a "leg beret" because he saw some squared away 75th Rangers at a JFK SWC memorial and he figured, wrongly, that the beret made the soldier so lets give it to everyone so everyone will be squared away. This fits nicely into your statements on mentality between soldiers and marines. You are also correct that indoc in the USMC is one of the things that makes a private in the USMC better than a US Army private. Respect. That is why 1st units receiving newly minted soldiers are bitching about shit bag privates. The Army is reaping what it sowed over the last 15 to 20 years. Having been a reservist DS and working with both reservist and active duty drills, I have learned 2 things. 1) Prior service Marines make the best soldiers. 2) Prior service Marine DI's make the best US Army DS's. Now, I do recognize that there are exceptions to everything. Like you stated, Rangers/Infantry/Airborne/SF/CAG are the exceptions that I know of. There are also other exceptions to where the USMC isn't always the best either and they have their shitbags also. Just my 2 cents.
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Cpl Bill Johnson
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Well said, Ssgt. Everything you said is important, but the most important was this: " the Army trains, the Marines indoctrinate"
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MAJ Mark Anderson
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Concur. I appreciate how Marines are riflemen first, their assigned duty specialty second. I believe all Marines CAN be riflemen as a result but not all Soldiers can and do.
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