Posted on Dec 8, 2017
Fighting Against the Movies: Not Everyone Pulls Triggers
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Recently, I have found myself having long conversations with civilians about the military. I am a full time student at a private university in Kansas and much of the faculty and student body has never even thought about joining the military. It isn’t anything strange; this is to be expected at such a small school and the fact that the military makes up less than 1% of the population of the country. What is interesting is that many of them have only the movies to go off of when forming their view of what everyone does in the military. Sadly, making movies about productive supply sergeants and personnel clerks doesn’t really make people line up outside of the theaters. Many civilians, in my experience, have this idea in their head that every single member of the military is out on the battlefield, kicking in doors and getting shot at or blown up. Those of us who have spent any amount of time in the military knows that this is far from the reality of the military. Perhaps this is where recruiting takes the biggest hit.
I spoke to a professor of mine who is going through a point in her life where she is trying to make a transition from her current position to a new one. As she was looking through openings at different universities across the country to put in a packet for the position, I made a joke about how she should just go and commission in the Air Force or something. Don’t get me wrong, I loved being in the Army, but I also know the kind of people that would be able to be successful in the Army and she is far more suited for the Air Force. She actually took the comment seriously. The money as an officer is more than she is making now. The opportunity for advancement is obviously there. The only real concern that she had was that she didn’t want to find herself in Iraq or Afghanistan in a year, getting shot at and blown up. I couldn’t help but to laugh.
I began to explain how the military is made up of many occupations that have almost nothing to do with direct combat. This was new information for her. As I began to name off occupations like public affairs, logistics, intelligence, and clerical her eyes went wide. I tried to break it down in the easiest way that I could by telling her that you can think of the military as a microcosm for the country. We know that the military makes up less than 1% of the population in the United States and in almost an exact, similar fashion, those who work as combat arms occupations (such as infantry, tankers, and cavalry) make up about 1% of the military. I went on to break down the military into the three categories that we all know and love: combat, combat-support, and support. I finished up by explaining that, if she chose a certain occupation, the chances of her being involved in direct combat were slim to none. I will follow that statement up by saying that I did tell her that there is always the possibility and that there are still non-combat service members that are injured or killed in combat.
This entire conversation made me wonder if this woman’s view of the military, where everyone is running around with fully automatic rifles, night vision goggles, going in under the cover of night and wrecking shop, is really what the rest of the country thinks is all that is done. They don’t know what goes on behind the scenes; they don’t know what goes into conducting a single mission long before the first HMMWV rolls out of the FOB. After this thought, I began to wonder if this is why many people don’t give military service a single thought.
Next, I wondered if this same idea is why we have so many guys, or gals, who leave the military honorably after serving in a support role and decide to go out and say that they were Delta Force Seal Special Ranger Snipers or whatever the kids are saying these days. Are all of the recent military movies that glorify only that small percentage to blame for these issues? When we really begin to think about it, if combat arms is such a small population within our military, just how small is the population that works as a member of these special groups? It is tiny.
I do not know what the remedy for this issue is. I do not think that there should be a ban on military movies glorifying heroism and bravery under fire, even if I do find that many of the movies are awful. What is there that can be done though? Is there any way that we can properly educate citizens on what makes up the military? How can we also get it through the minds of our people that get out after serving that there is no need to act like something that you were not?
The military takes all kinds. It is a giant machine that requires numerous moving parts. If one part fails, every cog in the machine grinds to a halt or, at a minimum, does not function nearly as well as it needs to.
I spoke to a professor of mine who is going through a point in her life where she is trying to make a transition from her current position to a new one. As she was looking through openings at different universities across the country to put in a packet for the position, I made a joke about how she should just go and commission in the Air Force or something. Don’t get me wrong, I loved being in the Army, but I also know the kind of people that would be able to be successful in the Army and she is far more suited for the Air Force. She actually took the comment seriously. The money as an officer is more than she is making now. The opportunity for advancement is obviously there. The only real concern that she had was that she didn’t want to find herself in Iraq or Afghanistan in a year, getting shot at and blown up. I couldn’t help but to laugh.
I began to explain how the military is made up of many occupations that have almost nothing to do with direct combat. This was new information for her. As I began to name off occupations like public affairs, logistics, intelligence, and clerical her eyes went wide. I tried to break it down in the easiest way that I could by telling her that you can think of the military as a microcosm for the country. We know that the military makes up less than 1% of the population in the United States and in almost an exact, similar fashion, those who work as combat arms occupations (such as infantry, tankers, and cavalry) make up about 1% of the military. I went on to break down the military into the three categories that we all know and love: combat, combat-support, and support. I finished up by explaining that, if she chose a certain occupation, the chances of her being involved in direct combat were slim to none. I will follow that statement up by saying that I did tell her that there is always the possibility and that there are still non-combat service members that are injured or killed in combat.
This entire conversation made me wonder if this woman’s view of the military, where everyone is running around with fully automatic rifles, night vision goggles, going in under the cover of night and wrecking shop, is really what the rest of the country thinks is all that is done. They don’t know what goes on behind the scenes; they don’t know what goes into conducting a single mission long before the first HMMWV rolls out of the FOB. After this thought, I began to wonder if this is why many people don’t give military service a single thought.
Next, I wondered if this same idea is why we have so many guys, or gals, who leave the military honorably after serving in a support role and decide to go out and say that they were Delta Force Seal Special Ranger Snipers or whatever the kids are saying these days. Are all of the recent military movies that glorify only that small percentage to blame for these issues? When we really begin to think about it, if combat arms is such a small population within our military, just how small is the population that works as a member of these special groups? It is tiny.
I do not know what the remedy for this issue is. I do not think that there should be a ban on military movies glorifying heroism and bravery under fire, even if I do find that many of the movies are awful. What is there that can be done though? Is there any way that we can properly educate citizens on what makes up the military? How can we also get it through the minds of our people that get out after serving that there is no need to act like something that you were not?
The military takes all kinds. It is a giant machine that requires numerous moving parts. If one part fails, every cog in the machine grinds to a halt or, at a minimum, does not function nearly as well as it needs to.
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Im a reservist and in a Med Support Unit. it is extremely rare that were see a rotation to a combat zone. I have been mobilized twice for great missions buy ive never seen combat and I am slightly embarrassed by it. Once people know I'm a Medic, they always ask if I've seen anything cool. Outside of training, no. I've handled more trauma as a civilian coming upon car accidents and putting my skills to work.
I have also work at some pretty liberal places where many coworkers are anti-war/guns/violence etc. It's very challenging to explain the non glamorous pew pew side of the military. It is also difficult for some coworkers to remove the distain from their faces when they look at me.
I have also work at some pretty liberal places where many coworkers are anti-war/guns/violence etc. It's very challenging to explain the non glamorous pew pew side of the military. It is also difficult for some coworkers to remove the distain from their faces when they look at me.
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You can’t stop the film industry from making their hooah movies, but you can educate those around you one person at a time.
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And here's another one for you: 99% of the civilians I meet seem to think that EVERYBODY in the Air Force is a pilot, that no other jibs in the USAF exist. Even when I tell them up front that I was Security Police, these dumb ignorant phuquetards ask me, "So, what plane did you fly?"
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Movies, T.V. programs, are meant for entertainment, rarely have I found any that bear a true resemblance to actual military life, or operations. Hence, people watching, who have no experience with the military form their opinions. The same can apply to other occupations. As a Fire Fighter, folks generally think I'm at one raging structure fire after another, that Police officers are daily engaged in high speed pursuits with guns blazing, Lawyers spend all their time in court rooms, etc... T.V. and movies are designed to make a buck, regardless of supposed social statement they want the public to believe. Imagine if "Top Gun" was a true depiction Naval Aviation, you'd have a 10 min movie, Maverick would have been grounded, owing to his described, history of breaking safety of flight rules, and one Admirals daughter.
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And this is why Recruiting can be such a struggle. Many people have no concept of what the military is and many don’t realize that there are separate branches.
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The problem with having an occupation that is "popular" in the movie/entertainment industry is that you end up getting labeled by stereotypes, clichés, and sound bites. This is often inaccurate as well as negative. Just ask any "Cowboy" or "Indian" ..... Any Seals or Special Ops want to comment?
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You can not help people that don't want to be helped they don't care so quit trying
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Not everyone pulls triggers, some pull lanyards. It gets hairy when you look down your tube and see the enemy has taken two of your six guns and is turning them to fire on you. I blame video games for making exceptional circumstances the norm. They and computer generated movies where weapons magically appear. Perhaps that is why clerks grow beards, ride harley's and buy hats that proclaim them a hero.
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There are a lot of elements of this story, as told by a self-proclaimed writer, that I find hard to believe. In fact, I think it is entirely a work of fiction.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson - Sounds like an unethical professor/student relationship, one you seem highly defensive about. However, as I stated, I don't buy into your story. The correlation between my first and second point has to do with age. A person who is old enough to have a PhD and is a professor (meaning that not only do they have a PhD, they have teaching experience and other qualifications) is at a minimum just barely under the maximum age to seek a commission....but as an experienced NCO you should know that right? To me, your story is just that, a story to get your readers interested, it may even have grains of truth....but in the end is mostly fiction. Have a good night.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
I don't know what you think I get out of writing these, but the amount of people that read them doesn't really matter that much. I don't get paid for this, I don't receive a plaque for doing a good job. I write these because I like to write and RP invited me to write articles for them.
Again, what would be the reason to lie about anything?
And yes, I am a bit defensive. I do not appreciate being called a liar. I also am quite angry that you are now calling someone that I have the utmost respect for an unethical person.
I'm sorry that you are not capable of maintaining professional relationships with people, a circumstance that probably exists because of your poor attitude. Some of us are, though. Obviously my narrative has only hit you as SO unbelievable, as many have found it within the realm of reality and have been commenting for weeks on it.
The fact that you did not bother to discuss the topic of the piece and instead chose to attack me as a person only leads me to believe that you have nothing of real value to add to the discussion.
Again, what would be the reason to lie about anything?
And yes, I am a bit defensive. I do not appreciate being called a liar. I also am quite angry that you are now calling someone that I have the utmost respect for an unethical person.
I'm sorry that you are not capable of maintaining professional relationships with people, a circumstance that probably exists because of your poor attitude. Some of us are, though. Obviously my narrative has only hit you as SO unbelievable, as many have found it within the realm of reality and have been commenting for weeks on it.
The fact that you did not bother to discuss the topic of the piece and instead chose to attack me as a person only leads me to believe that you have nothing of real value to add to the discussion.
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1LT William Clardy
SFC (Join to see), you've got some definite stereotyping going on, especially regarding the age of college professors. Just as a personal datum, my freshman year I had a Spanish professor who was young enough that I once joked with her about going stag to the ROTC Military Ball, saying that I had gotten so desperate for a date I had even thought about asking her - and she replied that I should have. I still feel I missed out on that -- I am 100-percent certain that her Castillian sense of propriety would have preempted any hint of any potential for hanky-panky, but she would have easily been one of the best-looking and classiest dates at that ball.
Also, she was also a few years younger than I was when I attended IOBC a decade later.
Also, she was also a few years younger than I was when I attended IOBC a decade later.
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