Respect began when the Army began

Now that looks like a ARMY bootcamp getting DROPPED and give me 1000 pushups photo op!? that recruit is probably pissing his pants..or saying FK what did I get into? or I won't do that again whatever it was he did. In the NAVY it was the same thing. I remember watching a lot of dudes just getting hammered dropped for a long time. I guess I scored well enough 70 on the ASVAB to be put in a decent company with other kids similar, as we were called a FLAG company. Regardless few got dropped and the kids that did not fit in got processed out of boot in a few weeks and never graduated. I was awarded a MERITORIOUS Paygrade Achievement Advancement award at graduation not knowing it was even available to earn, until it was handed to me, which really well bonded me to the NAVY and serving and succeeding. I won't get into the details of my enlistment, which I study, day and night, now 2014-15, 20 years removed from NAVY boot. But lets say things took a quick turn left and right north and south, as the training I had, and the billet was given did not match well as it was like putting a 1st grader in 10th grade and expecting good results as I review my personnel and enlistment history documentation, mixed with the "High Priority Unit" COMBAT SHIP, and things I was thrown into with my limited training, during the downsizing of the military in the 1990s squeezing the manpower with the OPTEMPO of the fleet staying the same or increasing would be felt even at muster in the days working orders, really started to get to me as the morale was low, but evals were passing, I suppose, but complaints on physicals of my "worry of the stress I felt in my heart down to my left hand",( of what I know realize after studying what I wrote in 1997 were symptoms of panic attacks attributed to hazardous duties I would be doing with very minimal experience or training), went completely 100 percent untreated undiagnosed, as the 2 or 3 enlisted CORPSMAN on the ship basically ignored and did not even take a blood pressure test(The ship did not have a MEDICAL OFFICER attached). Within that same year or the NEXT year, we had a change in COmmand Master Chiefs the highest enlisted top dog who just happened to have the same job as I did hence he was in the same department, had a nice(in his eyes) 1 on 1 physical meet and greet, FAN ROOM COUNSELING SESSION, after walking in on a conversation about my uniform needing a some tidying out at sea with a leading petty officer. Basically this new e9 that I did not know well but thought he had to kick a little dog down the street to prove a point. And he invited me" requested my assistance to work on some mooring lines alone" and once that hatch was closed WHAM BAM no thank you man...he thought he raised my obedience or somehow corrected something. Infact what he did do what make me feel fucking retarded and in the end I hated leadership, never got counseling, as the small ships did not have appropriate health programs, kept it to myself as talking about it to others just did not seem to really have any way of solving it in my head, fumed inside mad all the rest of my life basically, distancing myself from my then fiance getting dumped, blowing up on my mom over the phone all of the sudden acting really defensive all of a sudden, then discharged somehow honorably but a complete mess with no SEPARATION PHYSICAL(I Just realized to go over my handful of physicals and lousy chronological health care from 94-02) became a lunatic street fighter anxiety of people even really just looking at me, more interested in fighting then holding a job, got fired from every job I could get in civilian life eventually just giving up by 2005 embarressed and then suicide hospital embarresed upset broke and homeless...and amazingly never once bringing up that I was assaulted or was even in the military and honorably discharged to the civilian psych doctors who were trying to figure me out..then 2011 a complete mess just applied and got SSDI for anxiety and mood disorder...

that is what can happen from an older man who uses his fists to talk.to a younger man..who can not run away..and can not protect himself...while really freaking conflicted that he is smart.and originally was all about serving honorably and with valor and all the other good words...

Respect is earned never given, With that being said if you feel like you have to force your soldiers to respect you you are already failing. I would rather a soldier do the right thing because they do not want to let me down rather than they do the right thing because they don't want me to punish them for messing up. As far as profanity in the military there is a time and place and if you are counseling, coaching or mentoring soldiers there is no place for it. There are a few UCMJ Articles on this topic not directly profanity but "provoking words" Article 117. If it is directed towards another service member or soldier in a negative way it is provoking words and it is prohibited under UCMJ Article 117.

MSG, I couldn't agree more. I have a favorite quote that I often use. I tell young Soldiers to expect and demand great leadership. Then I'll add “There’s a great deal of talk about loyalty from the bottom to the top. Loyalty from the top down is even more necessary and is much less prevalent. One of the most frequently noted characteristics of great men who have remained great is loyalty to their subordinates.”
- General George Patton Jr
Leaders need to respect their subordinates if they want respect in return.

I can handle a little profanity but when a Superior begins an ass chewing with " you stupid F--kers are gonna pay, its ears of

I always told my guys that respect is earned and that they never had to show any respect to anybody; however courtesy should always be shown to everybody at all times, and the courtesies cannot be lost. Respect is a feeling, and not action; courtesy on the other hand is manner of conduct. When I salute an officer it was not out of respect it was out of courtesy, and their return was (Even if it had a coffee cup, cigarette, pen, or other crap that they happened to have in their hand) a courtesy because they didn't know me, and to expect them to have some respect for me was impractical, and untrue.

I think that I was not always courteous to my Marines as I should have been, and would do things differently now. I did however respect them.

I'm 100% certain that those claiming profanity at work offends them also do not watch movies or listen to music with any profanity in them whatsoever...right?

I NEVER told my soldiers to do something, instead I asked them to do it and often said please. I never had to EXPLAIN why they should do it and not someone else and feel that my soldiers and soldiers in other squads and platoons respected me more than NCOs that TOLD them.

Basic training requires a particular method of Leadership to build and tear down the enlistee, through out the training cycle this promotes team building and survival afterwards. We as their leaders are tasked with an insurmountable responsibility, to these young people and profanities isn't a set standard we promulgate as the norm! When you get out of basic things become a little less hectic, now you go on to continue further training and your leaders are not to exhibit dictator type behavior! That would blatantly be in violation of the UCMJ and code of conduct as a senior NCO, and taken to the command senior enlisted for resolution. Come on ladies /gentleman as leaders you set the standard by leading by example not through ignorance, if you've lost touch in how to be an effective leader step down and or retire!

I cursed a lot in the Army, just never at the soldiers.

This is for everyone; and my take, if you are using cursing as a part of your everyday speaking then I can tell you; you wont last in the civilian world. I have heard a lot of cursing in my days of the marines and it is not affective in getting someone to do something. if you are an grown man or women, no one should have to curs at you to do the right thing. and people this may sound like it is a good thing to do while in uniform today. but what happens when you have to at some point hang your uniform up and make that great transition over to civilian life. some people that I have ran into are having problems finding work today because of their mouth. we are living in an super sensitive world and if you go onto a job and use words from the military talking to civilians of younger age and older who do not understand you; you wont be working long. all I am saying is be careful of how you use your words.