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Posted on Jul 19, 2018
SSG Gerhard S.
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PO1 Terry Scott
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Before bone spurs gets you upset Joe* had five education deferments and still graduated last in his class.
When graduating high school if your family had money you got to study art history, if not you got a bus ticket. Those that avoided the draft dealt with their guilt by believing they were more moral instead of chicken s*. Kerry threw his fake medals over the White House fence hoping to get laid by a hippie chick. Don’t get me started.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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Although This Was Posted on Jul 19, 2018,
My Feelings Remain As They Always Have,
I Have No Use For The SOB'S;
Nor Do I Associate With Any Of Them.
While They Were Headed To Canada, I Joined Up...
You Know The Location Where THEY Can Kiss,
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SSG Gerhard S. - .... I Don't Know What It's Presently Referred To, But We Referred To It As "THE DRAFT"....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~This IS Your Statement, Correct?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"the Federal government would have to employ, pay, provide benefits, and possibly feed, and shelter approximately 10 million Americans (between the ages of 18-20) every year, who are involuntarily serving. "
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SSG Gerhard S.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney yes, that was in answer to the idea of universal service for all 18-20 year olds.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SSG Gerhard S. - ..
One Of The Reasons I Signed Up On My 17th Birthday...
With a 10 Day "Early Out", I Had To Wait 10 More Days To Legally
Buy A Beer......
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A1C Isa Kocher
A1C Isa Kocher
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SSG Gerhard S. - since when have politicians ever been anything but politically minded: except for the New Deal when has any generation of military not been shafted. even the GI Bill after WWII shafted all non-white military. all but a tiny handfull denied the free no down payment mortgages and education benefits that made the usa white middle class the world's richest

we serve and they profiteer. of course decent folk feel used abused and shafted. they are.

however it still is honorable to serve and it deserves serving honorably, and politicians eventually must face us., duty to serve goes beyond military service: every civilian is duty bound to make sure dirty politicians get their acts cleaned up. that's our job too
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SPC Lyle Montgomery
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I don't have an issue with those who had legitamate deferments, but I don't have any use for the cowards who went to Canada to avoid the draft. I volunteered for the draft in 1969 after high school. I figured that it was my duty to serve. I don't like ships and the water so the Navy was out. I didn't want to be a Marine so the Army was my best choice. By volunteering for the draft I was enlisting in the Army for 2 years instead of 3 and at the induction center, the Marines tried to snag me but couldn't because I was already in the Army although they tried. I had to take whatever MOS that the Army would give me which turned out to be 11 bravo. At 18 I served as a combat infantry M60 gunner in Quang Tri Vietnam for my tour. I didn't complain and did my job and got out after my 2 years. One of my classmates took the chicken shit cowards route and went to Canada to avoid the draft. While 2 of my other classmates, one a good friend, both got killed in NAM. Those 2, I have the utmost respect for and none for the draftdodgers They are cowards plain and simple and I would piss on their grave.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for your voluntary service, and for sharing your views, and perspective.
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SPC Lyle Montgomery
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Absolutely. I volunteered for the draft. I figured it was my duty to serve. I didn't want to be on the water so the Navy was out and didn't want to be a Marine so the Army was my choice. By volunteering for the draft I was enlisting in the Army for 2 years instead of 3 and had to take whatever the Army gave me for a MOS. which turned out to be 11 bravo. Also the marines at the induction canter couldn't snag me, although they tried. I was already in the Army. I carried an M60 in the bush in Quang Tri for my tour in Nam I was a combat infantryman and that was OK with me. A kid that I was in high school with went to canada. I consider him a Coward while 2 of my highschool classmates were killed in Nam. I have absolutely no respect for the chicken shit cowards that ran off to Canada
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MSgt Earl King
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You are blowing a lot of wind SSG. A draft dodger who insults a Military Family who has lost a loved one or insults someone like John McCain is lower than whale crap! So please stop the back door White Washing!
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for sharing your opinion, while totally ignoring the premise of the article. Respectful Regards MSgt
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SSG Gerhard S. - .....
.~LMAO ~ Ya Prick~
~~I READ Your Bio ~~
You'd Not Know Military Service If It Bit Ya In The Azz.
"Respectful Regards",
My azz....
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SSG Gerhard S.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney congratulations, you've received one of my extremely rare down votes. Not because we disagree but because you engaged in ad hominem attacks instead of addressing, in any way, the substance of the article.
That being the nature of the draft as involuntary servitude at best, slavery at worst. One suspects, if a person can't get past the first sentence without hollering "Trump-Trump-Trump" then perhaps Trump is living in that person's skull, and not being charged any rent. Or perhaps you just have a comfort with involuntary servitude/slavery, that i do not share. Either way, hope that works out for you.
Regards
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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SSG ~~ GERHARD SEIDEL...
.Thanks For The "THUMBS DOWN" I'm Glad You're Reading What I Have To Say.
NOW Flip That Thumb Around And SIT ON IT!
"Respectful Regards"
~ Ya Prick ~
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PO2 Joel Warthen
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SSG Gerhard, I respectfully disagree with your definitions. My draft number was 68 and I decided to enlist for 3 reasons:
1. I could learn a trade.
2. I could show this country the gratitude that I have for all of the opportunities that it provides.
3. I could get a college education that I otherwise could not afford.
I learned much about the world and the people in it, both good and bad. There will always be those that avoid responsibility, that can not be changed but, some people need a little prodding sometimes. I was one of them. I consider it a fair trade, not indentured servitude and I am proud of my decision.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for your thoughtful comments, and for sharing your experience. Also, more importantly, thank you for your voluntary service. I totally agree that a great many benefit, and have pride in their country, and in their service. I would count myself as one of them.
This however does not change the definitions of those two words, nor the fact that a compulsory draft fits those definitions from Merriam Websters Dictionary.
Respectful regards.
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Pvt Joe Mcsherdon
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I agree with you I joined before most people ever heard of Vietnam or at least no war going on I joined out of desperation going on 17 with absolutely no future plans I had noting noting for me and all my family volunteered over the years to me it was a no brainer I admit I was worth less as a military men go at least that's what I was told and it kinda got branded in my mind.
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for your voluntary service, and for sharing your experience.
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CPL William Brennan
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You left out Obama and Biden not serving....
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CPL Lee Brennan
CPL Lee Brennan
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MSgt Earl King now Google Obama trading 5 terrorists for a deserter that caused the life of a US Solider. Check mate.
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CPL Lee Brennan
CPL Lee Brennan
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MSgt Earl King Obama trading a deserter who cost the life of a solider for 5 terrorist. Check mate.
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MSgt Earl King
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I did just that, he was joking and he thanked them for their patriotism and courage, now about this deserter, was he an American Citizen? Has he been convicted and declared a deserter under the UCMJ. Check Mate!!
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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MSgt Earl King are you still trolling?
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SP5 Wick Humble
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Trump could have joined with his cohort (HS Class of '63) but he didn't; now he rants patriotism. He had a military education, mine was teaching. I didn't dodge the draft, and I served as ordered. I was not of the privileged class, he was -- and is. I don't preach 'Americanism' and cite Patton and MacArthur as my heroes -- he does, though I don't see how he dares, with no DD214! The rich only serve at their pleasure; deferments can be and are bought, with enough money. 'Nuff said!
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for sharing your perspective, and for serving. One wonders though, since you state the rich can buy deferrments, is this an indictment on Trump, or on the draft system itself? Either way, what of the actual point of the article? Are we truly a free country if our government can force people into involuntary servitude without the due process required by our Constitution?
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SP5 Wick Humble
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Many, many of we conscripts felt that way in the 'sixties. I suppose it is a criticism of both the wealthy and the all-too-mallable system, huh? "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose" saith Bobby McGee, according to the '69 hit song. Do we need a special 'freedom' just to be good folk? The bad sure want their 'Freedom' and 'Liberty' to rebel and hate.
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
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While I respect the opinion Maj John Bell at this point, it's all water under the bridge. I even forgive President Clinton. Even the most egregious "draft dodgers" are little more than feeble old men who can but live out the rest of their lives contending with their conscience. Most will be able to deal, and some will regret.

It's been years, nay decades. I say live and let live, regardless. I was a volunteer. When somebody says "Thank you for your service" it's for me. Not them, me. On my deathbed, I will be comforted by knowing that I served others for something bigger than me. This benefit is mine, and I cherish it. Anybody who avoided it won't have this benefit. That's good enough for me.
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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Thank you for sharing your, well stated, perspective, and for your voluntary service. I feel much the same regarding my service.
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