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Better body armor and vehicles coupled with state of the art medical treatment leads to people surviving at a much higher rate resulting in more survivors with disabilities
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SGM Mikel Dawson
We probably saw a jump in this area during the Korean war from WWII due to the helicopter and the M.A.S.H. units. Improved combat medics, addition of combat life savers(army) have to make a difference.
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LCDR (Join to see)
Completely agree when my wife Capt Sharon Wright worked for the Trauma Registry and talking about her experience as a trauma nurse in Balad we have come to the same conclusion. If Gettysburg was fought today I bet 80% of the dead would be disabled instead but at least alive. This is a good news story General.
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1SG (Join to see)
Sir, I think all of your points combined with the fact that we have been at a continuous state of hostilities longer than any other time in our countries history (with service members having multiple deployments to the combat zone) has resulted in the record number of service connected disabilities.
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A lot of it is the diagnosis for combat related injuries and illnesses is much better and the VA is more receptive now. After 2 tours in VN I was having problems with dreams, sleeping, and attitude. I went to the Hospital at McConnell AFB (I was a Reserve Advisor) and the Psychiatrist told me I had "Battle Fatigue" but I would get over it soon. He gave me some sleeping pills and I never saw him again. I tried the VA System in the 70's (Bad Behavior and Agent Orange) and was turned down. They said it wasn't service connected so "go home and stop crying".
Fast forward to 2004 when I was diagnosed with PTSD by a CIVILIAN PSYCHOLOGIST! I then went to the VA and they were not the same VA I tried in 1970's. I initially got into the VA system through the Military Order of the Purple Heart. In the 70's a PH didn't mean anything to them. I was fast tracked to the Mental Health and Compensation Dept's and was receiving 20% disability benefits within 3 months. Then, after all the tests and prodding/poking it was raised to 40% (Service Connected) and I now get VA Physicals every 6 months and all my meds are taken care of.
My own personal experience is very positive after being turned down in the 70's. I do see more Iraq and Afghanistan Vets getting more aggressive care than us old guys......LOL! Thats a good thing in my book.
Fast forward to 2004 when I was diagnosed with PTSD by a CIVILIAN PSYCHOLOGIST! I then went to the VA and they were not the same VA I tried in 1970's. I initially got into the VA system through the Military Order of the Purple Heart. In the 70's a PH didn't mean anything to them. I was fast tracked to the Mental Health and Compensation Dept's and was receiving 20% disability benefits within 3 months. Then, after all the tests and prodding/poking it was raised to 40% (Service Connected) and I now get VA Physicals every 6 months and all my meds are taken care of.
My own personal experience is very positive after being turned down in the 70's. I do see more Iraq and Afghanistan Vets getting more aggressive care than us old guys......LOL! Thats a good thing in my book.
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PO1 Walter Duncan
Glad it worked out well for you. My cousin did not have it so well. He fought tooth and nail with the VA over PTSD and his Agent Orange. He tried to commit suicide by jumping from an interstate overpass. Luckily it did not work. But, another VN Vet heard about him and employed him with good insurance to get him help. He soon was in much better shape and lived a much happier life for a few years. But, of course he was diagnosed with cancer and passed away several years back and no doubt it was because of AO. But, thanks to the kindness of another one of us Vets he enjoyed his last few years with his family and grandkids. Was truly a blessing. The VA not so much.
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Sgt (Join to see)
Sir, I did not try the VA again until 2014, when a VFW VSO helped me file an Agent Orange claim.
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
I know exactly what you all are saying. I went to the VA in 1971 and man, was I totally disgusted with those guys and their "who gives a shit" attitude. I never went back until my Doctor told me to after being diagnosed with cancer and that took some time. I finally went back in 2010 and what a difference. Their attitude was entirely different and now I am in their care. Maybe, just maybe if their attitudes would of been more sympathetic back when I first went, the bastards, my cancer would of been diagnosed earlier and would of been treated well before all of the damn damage occurred. Oh well, I guess better late than never? At least I know that I am in good company!
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I would venture to say that the reason we have more service connected disabilities than Vets in the past historically would have to be the increased ability to survive in war (use of drones, aircraft, artillery, weapons, equipment, technology, etc), our ability to quickly command and control land, air and sea, over our adversaries, as well as the significant advances in medicine (techniques, drugs and Public Health) further increasing the survivability of Vets pre-conflict, conflict, and post-conflict. That survivability does incur a great physical and mental cost to our Vets, as well as a large financial cost to the country to "maintain" us. This is important to note because under historical accounts, many of today's Vets would not have survived many of today's injuries, diseases and, in some cases, mental illnesses. Add to this a greatly improved method of reporting, the ease of personal accountability and rating, along with the push of ensuring the importance of educating of our Vets to identify illnesses and injuries prior to separation, pushes this "number" even higher.
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MSgt Curtis Ellis
SSgt Alex Robinson This is true as I fit 3 of the items you have mentioned here, and had it not been the many advances in many areas of warfare, many of us would have our names on a memorial somewhere instead of being here and posting on RP... Regardless of how we feel, we're the "lucky" ones...
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Sgt Spencer Sikder
MSgt Curtis Ellis-Your comment is on point regarding the increase survivability in today's conflicts has been a key contributor, as stated by VA, to the increase influx of veterans. Improvements in armor, field medical advances/training and communications noted as part of the success.
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I am going to be the bad guy here and call a Spade a Spade. Now I understand by looking at someone from the outside you may or may not be able to tell who has a disability. However, I have known quiet a few who did one or two tours in Iraq that got out due to a bad shoulder, or bad back, or the most famous PTSD and are getting paid for the rest of there life at 22 years old!! And most of them were crappy Soldiers to begin with! Always out trying to do things to take care of themselves and not the Army. Its like they do things to get hurt, or to get paid.
It kills me to see guys who think they because they serve they should be able to get out and make all these VA Claims. I could more than likely play the "PTSD Card", or complain about bad knees from jumping or deploying but I don't have it in my heart to do it. I am not saying that we shouldn't have these programs for our veterans, but there is ALOT of Bull shitter's out there.
I have often wondered when I ride down the road and see the homeless veteran signs.... what kind of Soldier was that guy? Was he a legit stand up Soldier and if he was how did he get into being homeless or was he a dirt bag that got kicked out because he did drugs, or went AWOL. I am sorry I am very unsympathetic when it comes to people like this. I think this system in abused and is going to get worse, and worse with the continued deployments. I mean I predict within 10-15 years someone will have breathing problems from the polluted air in Baghdad and they recall all veterans who served in Iraq due to bad air. I mean this crap is crazy. What happened to the days when people really put out and it wasn't about what I can get for free, or if I get out now how can I raise my disability from 20% to 80%. GTFOH with that crap.
Sorry for the vent, just had to speak my mind. ATW!
It kills me to see guys who think they because they serve they should be able to get out and make all these VA Claims. I could more than likely play the "PTSD Card", or complain about bad knees from jumping or deploying but I don't have it in my heart to do it. I am not saying that we shouldn't have these programs for our veterans, but there is ALOT of Bull shitter's out there.
I have often wondered when I ride down the road and see the homeless veteran signs.... what kind of Soldier was that guy? Was he a legit stand up Soldier and if he was how did he get into being homeless or was he a dirt bag that got kicked out because he did drugs, or went AWOL. I am sorry I am very unsympathetic when it comes to people like this. I think this system in abused and is going to get worse, and worse with the continued deployments. I mean I predict within 10-15 years someone will have breathing problems from the polluted air in Baghdad and they recall all veterans who served in Iraq due to bad air. I mean this crap is crazy. What happened to the days when people really put out and it wasn't about what I can get for free, or if I get out now how can I raise my disability from 20% to 80%. GTFOH with that crap.
Sorry for the vent, just had to speak my mind. ATW!
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SFC Joey Jimenez
Forgive me if my post doesn't make sense my brain is mush. The disability system is designed for us to use and we should. I
agree some people do abuse the system, but it is a very few. As a GW Veteran with many ailments the government does not own up to Veterans have very little trust left. Look back at Vietnam Vets 40 years later the government finally is helping them, but think of those who have already died from lack of care. Same with Gulf War Illness we are still being denied at a high rate. There are many illnesses associated with these two wars and these groups of Veterans have been given a raw deal. We have ensured that today's Veterans are knowledgeable about the claims process because we were not. I definitely see almost every Veteran of today's era claiming PTSD regardless of what they saw or did...it is the IN THING...and here lies a huge problem...because they see it has a payday. This generation is the me first generation who looks out for themselves. In our time claiming a mental health problem was a death sentence, today it is a payday.
agree some people do abuse the system, but it is a very few. As a GW Veteran with many ailments the government does not own up to Veterans have very little trust left. Look back at Vietnam Vets 40 years later the government finally is helping them, but think of those who have already died from lack of care. Same with Gulf War Illness we are still being denied at a high rate. There are many illnesses associated with these two wars and these groups of Veterans have been given a raw deal. We have ensured that today's Veterans are knowledgeable about the claims process because we were not. I definitely see almost every Veteran of today's era claiming PTSD regardless of what they saw or did...it is the IN THING...and here lies a huge problem...because they see it has a payday. This generation is the me first generation who looks out for themselves. In our time claiming a mental health problem was a death sentence, today it is a payday.
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Sgt Michael Baker
SSG Ingram, while I appreciate your zealous comment and respect the nature in which it was made I feel compelled to point out that you don't have to be shot or lose a limb to have issues from a traumatic event. Anyone that has signed a contract to put their life on the line for our country asking for nothing in return, or even doing it as a means to an end, such as getting an education, etc., is due more than what the Feds and the VA provide to those people. We were all told that if something goes wrong while in the service that they will be taken care of medically at least. That is something that does not happen. Really, it is under 5% of the population that fights for the rest of the country and if not for those willing to do so, things such as this forum wouldn't be possible? Because of the average age of those that are in the military we have to assume that disillusionment, anxiety, and depression as a result of what they experience in a combat setting can be profound.Especially true in America where we are taught to believe that right and wrong are worth fighting and even dying for. I am unaware of any war where such values have been present with the small select group of people that get us into them. That said, those that actually fight these wars typically start out with the ideals which they have learned and discover that perhaps they were mistaken? At any rate, those willing to fight deserve all that can get, I mean if they don't deserve help then who does?
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SSG Audwin Scott
MSG (Join to see) - Unfortunately there is some truth to what you are saying here, but at the same token, the few I know have legitimate problems as I do myself so clearly I appreciate the fact that we have a system in place to help those who have legit disabilities. It's just sad that it sometimes takes an act of Congress to get taken care of or compensated for those who have real issues.
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Well, in the first place, I have mental disabilities. (I was extremely sick, mentally, for some 27 years.) I am not going to go around advertising that. Usually, when I mention my mental disabilities, they are (I think) relevant to the conversation; and/or I mention them to help people.
All of my mental disabilities have been addressed; by great psychiatrists....and by medications....
....such that, basically, I am just fine.
All of my mental disabilities have been addressed; by great psychiatrists....and by medications....
....such that, basically, I am just fine.
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A fair amount, since I am one. It took my three years after my Administrative Separation Due to Physical Disqualification from the USMCR (8/1/2002) for me to get over my Marine ego and submit an application to the VA for disability compensation. I was initially awarded 10%, then an additional 10% the following year, and then an additional 50% last May. I'm still mixed up in the appeals process.
Why? A reduction in the stigma of seeking disability compensation, the wonderfully high survivability rate of many types of combat injuries that killed members of previous veteran generations, and the recent recession all come to mind. Most of us know that TBI & PTSD are viewed as the signature injuries of the post-9/11 campaigns in Afghanistan & Iraq; these conditions were not successfully applied for by many veterans of previous conflicts (I'm thinking of you, Vietnam vets). The rule changes that changed how the VA evaluates PTSD and the PR campaigns to encourage vets to apply helped too.
Finally, as someone who has depended on the VA since 2005, I can tell you all about its strengths and weaknesses serving me at several different locations in two states (VA & NY). They actually do have many caring medical personnel, but the bureaucratic barriers to getting treatment are nearly as bad as the walls erected to reduce or even deny legitimate disability claims (much like the insurance business, but I digress).
My rant is concluded for now. What else would you like to know about disabled veterans in general, or my experiences in particular?
Why? A reduction in the stigma of seeking disability compensation, the wonderfully high survivability rate of many types of combat injuries that killed members of previous veteran generations, and the recent recession all come to mind. Most of us know that TBI & PTSD are viewed as the signature injuries of the post-9/11 campaigns in Afghanistan & Iraq; these conditions were not successfully applied for by many veterans of previous conflicts (I'm thinking of you, Vietnam vets). The rule changes that changed how the VA evaluates PTSD and the PR campaigns to encourage vets to apply helped too.
Finally, as someone who has depended on the VA since 2005, I can tell you all about its strengths and weaknesses serving me at several different locations in two states (VA & NY). They actually do have many caring medical personnel, but the bureaucratic barriers to getting treatment are nearly as bad as the walls erected to reduce or even deny legitimate disability claims (much like the insurance business, but I digress).
My rant is concluded for now. What else would you like to know about disabled veterans in general, or my experiences in particular?
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Sgt Michael Baker
I had much the same opinion about getting any type of disability for years. When I returned from Viet Nam I was offered and declined 50% rating and 25 years later decided to change my mind. My 1st two attempts were denied and after changing sponsors 3 times what I found was that the smallest group was also the best, at least for me. The Order of The Purple Heart took 3 months to get a 50% rating. They then instructed me to apply for at least 70% and to seek unemployability. Due to the types of disabilities I have I did that and wound up with that rating. In so doing I am able to have 100% benefits such as dental, all medical, and a mo allowance. I now have a nonprofit that I founded to help other veterans and their family members and is something I couldn't have even attempted had I not finally opted in. If you have questions feel free to contact me...or talk to the Purple Heart vets, I am told that you do not have to have a Purple Heart to have them represent you?
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SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS
Sgt Michael Baker Great Story and an even better than GREAT OUTCOME! Thank you for giving back! Thank you for your service and continued service.
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Because most recent veterans were in combat. Also there is a push to identify sexual abuse and provide a disability rating for that as well. Historically most of the time we are not at war and veterans do not suffer combat injuries. Also historically we were not good at recognizing PTSD as a service connected disability.
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Today's veteran is better informed. It is more difficult to keep them in the dark about what is available to them.
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Cpl Franz Buhlmann
Towards the beginning of my service I was diagnosed with a condition that required a mandatory medical discharge. I was never given follow up testing or anything else.
Even with duty station reassignments and separation medicals, no one ever bothered to review my records properly and take appropriate actions.
Even with duty station reassignments and separation medicals, no one ever bothered to review my records properly and take appropriate actions.
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I am a 100% ddisabled vet. I just recently recieved it. I do not use a war from my injury. I fell off a B-52 and broke my ankle. I broke it 6 more times while in the military. They were all at work. I have had 5 operations from the VA. After every operation, they increased my rating by 10%. My ankle is fused. I cannot bend it. The pain I suffer is unbearable. I dont sleep without pain meds. The pain makes it hard for me to hold a job. I fought the VA for years. I have a walker to help me walk. On the other side of it, I know individuals who never made it through Basic Training and are rated 100%. No matter what subject we talk about there will always be the few who abuse the system. The same is true about food stamps and welfare. My advice is never give up on the VA.
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SMSgt Tony Barnes
The rating has nothing to do with how long you are in...could be one day or 30 years. What matters is what happened.
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