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MAJ Ken Landgren
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Yep 400,000 gallons of oiled spewed out onto the grounds, and he wants:

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - The Trump administration said on Tuesday it will be auctioning off nearly 4 million acres (1.6 million hectares) of land in Arctic Alaska for oil development next month, and it is promising much more territory will be open to development in the future.

He also wants to curb back on regulating land and environmental issues to include possibly selling parts of national parks.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
MAJ Bryan Zeski
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LTC Stephen F. - I think the point for me is, we already say we have energy independence - why are we needing to open up more land for more oil exploration and exploitation. Oil is STILL a dying fuel. We've already seen that, no matter how greatly the pipelines are built, they will still leak hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil. That should be concerning to everyone. We're increasing environmental pollution for no benefit.
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LTC Stephen F.
LTC Stephen F.
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1. Actually oil is not a dying fuel MAJ Bryan Zeski It was mislabeled long ago as a fossil fuel tanks to those who believed in Darwinian macroevolution in large part. As technology improves more and more of the difficult to reach oil and natural gas reserves become available.
2. As long as the capitalism model is followed, business will use ingenuity to minimize risk of leaks because of profit loss and environmental impact. Businesses that don't improve will be replaced by ones that have a more robust approach.
3. Energy independence is relatively recent since it was actualized in the past two years. As more and safer US refineries come on line that will help to solidify our energy independence and leverage us to refine other nations oil.
4. Nuclear energy is probably the most efficient energy source and is not prone to spillage since it has advanced significantly beyond the technology of Three Mile island.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
MAJ Bryan Zeski
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LTC Stephen F. - Help me understand what you mean by "those who believed in Darwinian macroevolution in large part." What model of evolution do you subscribe to?

2. That's not necessarily true. Business will absolutely try to maximize profits - but they will use a cost/benefit analysis to do so. It may be most cost-beneficial to let a few hundred-thousand gallons of oil leak out than it would be to develop the technology necessary to keep those leaks from happening. Right now, they are concerned about moving as much of it as fast and as cheap as possible - and if that means you spill a bit - no biggie.

3. Our long-term energy independence requires us to not use oil as a primary source of energy. I'm sure there will be applications where it remains necessary, but alternative energies will be more and more necessary in the future.

4. This is something we agree on. I fully support more and better nuclear energy. I think nuclear is a necessary stepping stone from oil, coal, natural gas to all-renewable energies.
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LTC Stephen F.
LTC Stephen F.
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1. The term fossil fuel dates back to the time when Darwinian philosophy was mainstream. In those days it was believed that oil and natural gas are the result of decomposing flora and fauna MAJ Bryan Zeski
2. I am not sure what business model you are referring to. In this litigious age, after Exxon Valdez oil spill and oil rig fires off Louisiana the large oil conglomerates are aware of both the physical risks in oil exploration and the riskier damage-control requirements when problems occur. They work to develop more effective and efficient processes. The military has benefitted from this in the pipeline ship-to-shore fuel distribution as well as ship-to-ship fuel transfer. Jp4 is significantly riskier in terms of flammability and environmental impact than the oil flowing in the Dakota Access pipeline.
3. We have been using hydro-electric power and coal-fire power to develop power for the energy grid in addition to nuclear power. Coal fire plants have become much more efficient in production.
4. As long as cars, trucks, planes and many ships are going to be used by people on a large scale, oil-based and ethanol fuel will be a requirement. Solar power and electric power work more effectively in sunny areas and access to the power grid respectively. Some people are sold on electric power for cars or hybrid. Reminds me of Apple OS versus Windows/MS-DOS. Early on people gravitated to one and have general stayed with that OS.
5. Water is the most widespread resource for energy. Effectively harnessing it as an energy source would present a great opportunity to the developing world - especially if sea water could be used for energy on a wide scale.
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SFC Stephen King
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The Army corps of Engineers will divert the pipeline as needed Also, the contract has been signed by all tribes involved.
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SSG Drill Sergeant
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A big fat screw you to all those protestors and Indian tribes
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Capt Seid Waddell
Capt Seid Waddell
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SSG (Join to see), all those jobs, all that oil, and that too!
What a deal!
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